AvA Thursday Tank Fights TnT 04/18/2025

[Molsman]

                                                                             

Thursday Night Tank Fights

8pm Est in the AvA Arena

Map Tankland

Battle Area This week is Capture the Base and defend

Only Captureable base is Rooks V1

Bish will Spawn from A3

Knights will spawn from V33


Join us for Some Heavy metal fun and excitement in
the AvA Arena

This event is Loads of fun , You will also make new friends
learn how to kill and die well!!!

Common Vox is 223 and the Comedy is hysterical at times!!

        *****No Spawn Camping is allowed!!!!****
                  30 second Delay in Radar

Axis Tanks (Knights)            
Jeep
M3                           
Panzer IV F
Panzer IV H                           

Allied Tanks (Bishops)
M3                           
Jeep                         
M4A3(75)
T34/76

                Hosted Every Thursday night by

                     Molsman and Jaeger1

[Molsman]

Thank you Everyone who came out tonight, sorry if there were late game changes , since we usually just do hide and seek tonights take the base and defend was new both sides have the chance to capture the field . Anyone would like to see a gv line up with the tanks we have available here ( fudgums lol ) post here and we will make it happen Tiger 2's not included


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Molsman and Jaeger1

[fudgums]

Abrams/Leopards vs T90s


Serious note, was really fun last night. Guys always complaining about the MA are missing out.

[captain1ma]

sometimes the game needs to be fluid to make it more fair and more fun. last night the objective was to capture and hold a base. well when you're getting killed from a distance, it kinda takes the fun out of it.

last night we decided to make some changes on the fly. we added some vehicle spawns and we added some tanks. one was a little over powered but we gave both sides the panther and removed the overpowered one. this make the game play more fun.

after these changes were made, the place became an absolute battlefield with the base being taken back and forth a couple of times. it was very fun.

to those who think things and write-ups are RIGID, they're not. they're not with me and they're not in the AVA. if we can make it better and more fun by changing a few things, so be it. get over it and just play and have fun. life doesnt have to be that straight forward!

enjoy it like we did!! see you next week and thanks to everyone that participated. i hope you all enjoyed it as much as we did!

[Shane]

sometimes the game needs to be fluid to make it more fair and more fun. last night the objective was to capture and hold a base. well when you're getting killed from a distance, it kinda takes the fun out of it.

last night we decided to make some changes on the fly. we added some vehicle spawns and we added some tanks. one was a little over powered but we gave both sides the panther and removed the overpowered one. this make the game play more fun.

after these changes were made, the place became an absolute battlefield with the base being taken back and forth a couple of times. it was very fun.

to those who think things and write-ups are RIGID, they're not. they're not with me and they're not in the AVA. if we can make it better and more fun by changing a few things, so be it. get over it and just play and have fun. life doesnt have to be that straight forward!

enjoy it like we did!! see you next week and thanks to everyone that participated. i hope you all enjoyed it as much as we did!

There's enough on the fly decision making in the world as is; unannounced bait and switch might not sit well with everyone - it never has with me, especially when it favors one side against the other (as Jaeger did with unannounced gun lethality settings in the past.)

Or simply add "things may change as the event progresses" to the write up.  Not hard to do. 

Simply put, I always come from a place of fairness (when you think I'm just complaining.)  It took me remarking on it for the actual appropriate change to be made to get it back to a fair state of play. Not the first time, either.  You're welcome.

[Shane]

Thank you Everyone who came out tonight, sorry if there were late game changes , since we usually just do hide and seek tonights take the base and defend was new both sides have the chance to capture the field . Anyone would like to see a gv line up with the tanks we have available here ( fudgums lol ) post here and we will make it happen Tiger 2's not included


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Molsman and Jaeger1

Maybe consider the option of removing the Panzer IV H from the setup, leaving the IV F as the more appropriate (and fun) match up?  This is what I would have done (and have wanted to suggest every time you've brought this match up into play - the Panzer IV F won't get used as long as the IV H is available and the IV H is overpowered in that AvA setup.   

Edit:  or add the 76mm Sherman, not the T34/85, as being more suitable vs the IV H?

[captain1ma]

the gun lethality was actually an accident, but of course you whined about it.

you dont always see whats going on in the background. i suggested we install the M4/76 based on the battle outcomes i saw. after i found out the t34\85 was put in. i also suggested we get rid of the T34/85 but you wouldnt have seen that either. ive been running tank nights for a long time and helping and letting molsman take it over. i would suggest that you just make suggestions instead of being so accusatory the way you suggest stuff. i also added the spawns to make it more fun and more fair for both sides as well. that seemed to work out pretty good, as did the addition of the panther, which was your idea i might add.

we like having you in there and around, but you are like sandpaper sometimes. we are always up for fixing things and making them fair. its not necessary to be so harsh about it. just saying.

[Shane]

the gun lethality was actually an accident, but of course you whined about it.

you dont always see whats going on in the background. i suggested we install the M4/76 based on the battle outcomes i saw. after i found out the t34\85 was put in. i also suggested we get rid of the T34/85 but you wouldnt have seen that either. ive been running tank nights for a long time and helping and letting molsman take it over. i would suggest that you just make suggestions instead of being so accusatory the way you suggest stuff. i also added the spawns to make it more fun and more fair for both sides as well. that seemed to work out pretty good, as did the addition of the panther, which was your idea i might add.

we like having you in there and around, but you are like sandpaper sometimes. we are always up for fixing things and making them fair. its not necessary to be so harsh about it. just saying.

I  just gave Molsman solid, easily referenced advice on TNT setups.  If he wants to share the pm I sent him with you, he can. Check my work.

If you're going to change things, announce them before you do it.

I was on the allied side, dealing with those "overclassed" Pnzr IV Hs, then Molsman said numbers weren't balanced. So I went axis (you know, being fair minded and all) and all a sudden I'm dealing with "overclassed" T34/85s that's when you saw me starting to wtf? and saying to add Panthers to class match those T34/85s. 

Then boom, Panthers for everyone, T34/85s for no one! There goes that semi AvA vibe. But, once it got fair, it became more fun.

Oh, how about this? Do you know how relatively easy it was to spawn camp that vbase hangar? On other vbase hangars, you spawn inside the actual hangar, not this one.  Pretty sure I saw the MotD say no spawn camping. A player managed to get a tank into that yellow spot.  I couldn't even get my gun turned 1/2 to it before it could kill me (it did 5 times before the system gave it a "miss" that allowed me to kill it.) Was this something to be encouraged in this setup?

I'm fine with playing within the rules, whatever they are, as long as they're known and not just changed on the fly without notice. 

[fudgums]

Being a gv noob, I thoroughly enjoyed the 15 minutes of T3485's. It was quite fun I must say

[Shane]

Being a gv noob, I thoroughly enjoyed the 15 minutes of T3485's. It was quite fun I must say

As a T34/85, sure, I can see that...  as a Panzer IV H following directly behind a T34/85 and having it shrug off 2 rds of point-blank AP, turn and kill my panzer IV H... maybe not so much.

It's also why the IV H had an advantage over the basic Sherman and T34/76.  Could have just removed the IV H, leaving the IV F, instead of snowballing it to everyone has Panthers.

[captain1ma]

I  just gave Molsman solid, easily referenced advice on TNT setups.  If he wants to share the pm I sent him with you, he can. Check my work.

If you're going to change things, announce them before you do it.

I was on the allied side, dealing with those "overclassed" Pnzr IV Hs, then Molsman said numbers weren't balanced. So I went axis (you know, being fair minded and all) and all a sudden I'm dealing with "overclassed" T34/85s that's when you saw me starting to wtf? and saying to add Panthers to class match those T34/85s. 

Then boom, Panthers for everyone, T34/85s for no one! There goes that semi AvA vibe. But, once it got fair, it became more fun.

Oh, how about this? Do you know how relatively easy it was to spawn camp that vbase hangar? On other vbase hangars, you spawn inside the actual hangar, not this one.  Pretty sure I saw the MotD say no spawn camping. A player managed to get a tank into that yellow spot.  I couldn't even get my gun turned 1/2 to it before it could kill me (it did 5 times before the system gave it a "miss" that allowed me to kill it.) Was this something to be encouraged in this setup?

I'm fine with playing within the rules, whatever they are, as long as they're known and not just changed on the fly without notice.

what makes the AVA and the SEA2 fun is that we CAN change things on the fly. normally we announce it, but it seems like you're the only one that gets twisted up by things getting changed on the fly.

again we try to make it as even and fair as possible, i know when i add stuff i usually announce it. we will try to do better, but its not the end of the world. again we're all working to keep this game fun and alive. we appreciate your comments and your input.

[Shane]

what makes the AVA and the SEA2 fun is that we CAN change things on the fly. normally we announce it, but it seems like you're the only one that gets twisted up by things getting changed on the fly.

again we try to make it as even and fair as possible, i know when i add stuff i usually announce it. we will try to do better, but its not the end of the world. again we're all working to keep this game fun and alive. we appreciate your comments and your input.

You're not announcing it, then.  If you were, you'd not see me remarking on your actions.   

[captain1ma]

yup, when im getting shot at, trying to make spawn points and trying to keep it fun gets in the way of those pesky announcements!

[Shane]

yup, when im getting shot at, trying to make spawn points and trying to keep it fun gets in the way of those pesky announcements!

That's why solid set ups are beneficial to everyone's fun.  How many years you been doing this again, now?