Nothing New

[Yarbles]

I was back in for a few months but have been out for a month and haven't missed it.

Initially I liked the community but then it all seemed like Grumpy Old Men accusing each other or cheating and saying "He isn't all that" etc

I have to say a bit negative 

Blame and criticise seems to be the currency 

I guess the response if their is any is to blame someone who called someone out on 200 and like "I have to respond" and so it goes on........................... ... 

Its not the money but the way people form little hate groups than makes it a rather unpleasant place to spend time.   

[Yarbles]

 I have moved to DCS. People are full of enthusiasm and enjoying the immersion not personality conflicts. Its high end and maybe that says something about people who play it who really cant be bothered by who said what to whom and who was right and who is a cheat, ho, ganger, horde, score monkey etc etc etc ad nauseum. 

AH was my first flight Sim and I used to love it but its not a very nice place anymore.

I don;t mind the sub. Its just a downer now.

Learn something new and be a noob again not a conceited veteran with an eternal axe to grind.

If I had a suggestion it would be disable 200.

[hazmatt]

Aye. I miss the olden days.

Where I've been playing the gripers are few and far between and are ignored for the most part but then again it runs anticheat and has a rightclick on player name option to report cheating and many have been banned...

[Animl-AW]

Well thats a shame.

But we’re talking two different concepts
I view DCS as more playing golf rather than hockey. You’re going to have different audiences.
Same thing as a rock show over a symphony. Not to mention support issues with products snd nassive bug counts they can’t seem to get in order. Apples and oranges

Why former players feel a need come here just to make a negative disgruntle post is baffling.
If you’re happy you’re happy with what you like.
Most here aren’t all that interested in glittery golf games, cheese snd wine. These are basically beer drinkers.

What is it with DCS players that feel a beed to push elitism like a symphony audience?? Baffled. Do they hand out red felt jackets and pipes too? Totally lost on that crowd.

Good luck
You know you’re welcome here

[Animl-AW]

Aye. I miss the olden days.

Where I've been playing the gripers are few and far between and are ignored for the most part but then again it runs anticheat and has a rightclick on player name option to report cheating and many have been banned...

If many have been banned for cheating then its rampant, swiss cheese.
98% of the claims here are bogus conspiracy minds working over time. Same with accusing mods after testing them (“see told ta”) or posting a perceived cheat code on bbs.

[Animl-AW]

This post has the aeronautic aroma of Cpt.Tripps and AKIron influence to seize a moment.

The timing fits their MO

[Yarbles]

This post has the aeronautic aroma of Cpt.Tripps and AKIron influence to seize a moment

I think DCS is still under development particularly by the player base who run their own servers. Yes though it is buggy perhaps for that reason  Nothing would make me happier than AH continuing to develop. 

[Yarbles]

Why former players feel a need come here just to make a negative disgruntle post is baffling.
If you’re happy you’re happy with what you like.

What is it with DCS players that feel a beed to push elitism like a symphony audience?? Baffled. Do they hand out red felt jackets and pipes too? Totally lost on that crowd.

Good luck
You know you’re welcome here

That is very well said an thankyou.

AH is very much the complete package that other games aspire to. I wish it was growing as that would refresh the player base and improve the atmosphere.

I guess I am frustrated that isnt happening.

Most offerings are very click click bang bang and AH is waaay more than that.

You are right Animal.

[hazmatt]

If many have been banned for cheating then its rampant, swiss cheese.
98% of the claims here are bogus conspiracy minds working over time. Same with accusing mods after testing them (“see told ta”) or posting a perceived cheat code on bbs.

Uh, no, it's not swiss cheese, you see very little cheating and cheaters diappear quickly.

Uh, no it's not a conspiracy at all. I've seen them for THIS particular game and know a former player who admitted that they worked. The most common is a zero aircraft fuel weight client size memory value change that are not detectible by the server unless it's running an anticheat. Every wonder why some players are "so good at managing their energy"?

I don't know what you mean about "accusing mods after testing them" Getting a warning for saying the word "pissed" doesn't make sense if you see some of the other garbage out there or hearing some of the crap that is spewed on range.

[DmonSlyr]

I play both and both are 2 different games with different concepts. DCS has a lot more building up to do to get to AH level in terms of PvP WW2 large arena battles, and the WW2 players are smaller in #s. The maps without icons or map indicators make it much tougher, espcially on my eyes. I mostly fight the AI there and have takin a similar approach to Yarbles, where im not trying to learn it over night but have learned about 7-8 planes now . The server style to me isn't as fun as the main arena in AH during a big battle. I find there to be very little communication if any on multi-player servers. It just doesn't feel the same. I play both games for different reasons and objectives but I do feel like DCS is the future if they can make more planes.

As far as communication in AH, it's always been gritty, online egos are typical. Its just how it is when you can hide behind handles and not reveal your identity. It's actually taught me a lot on how to deal with online jerks. I think if you don't like that stuff than you have tune it out and play your game and not take anyone seriously.

[Randy1]

If you turn off 200 you will enjoy the game much more.  All three countries have a large amount of really good people.  A few stinkers but very few.

[hazmatt]

As far as communication in AH, it's always been gritty, online egos are typical. Its just how it is when you can hide behind handles and reveal your identity. It's actually taught me a lot on how to deal with online jerks. I think if you don't like that stuff than you have tune it out and play your game and not take anyone seriously.

This is what I think I miss the most about the "olden days" People would talk trash but it was in fun. We used to hunt that ZY the ho guy who would spin fight an A26 or A20 or whatever it was in AW but it never crossed our minds to threaten him. It seems the tone has changed over time. I've heard people have gotten real life threats and stuff. That to me is just nuts. Not sure but that seems to cross the line from "online jerks"

[Animl-AW]

That is very well said an thankyou.

AH is very much the complete package that other games aspire to. I wish it was growing as that would refresh the player base and improve the atmosphere.

I guess I am frustrated that isnt happening.

Most offerings are very click click bang bang and AH is waaay more than that.

You are right Animal.

Didn’t mean to offend, if I did.
IMO its just the reality.

I honestly see these type of post as somewhat a broken heart. We’re all frustrated. We’re on “ignore” even for our efforts. I think it keeps some on edge.

Kinda like a ex-gf, we get frustrated, decide to try something new (everything is great when its new) she gas the slit skirt, 2 lbs if makeup and nice nylons,…then with romantic memories we decide the past wasn’t that bad.

Hazmat wants to play but the real reason is affording his whole family. He doesn’t hate the game, he’s frustrated too. Because anyone who gas played it has fond memories they want to relive. AH is not easily forgotten.

I think I get it. Myself and several other old dog AW players rejoined because we want to relive that crazy fun we had. I don’t care where any AHer ends up, mist call this home as it is basically AW on steroids.

Not trying to over sell the game, but 200 has calmed way down since YKW and his main accomplice left. It will never be perfect, but is it very human, verses sitting with folded hands.

I hope you find your way back. But sometimes people need to see what else is out there, many return.

[hazmatt]

Because anyone who gas played it has fond memories they want to relive. AH is not easily forgotten.

I agree 100%.

[Yarbles]

 she has the slit skirt, 2 lbs if makeup and nice nylons,…

  (Then she got comfortable  )

Give it 10 years and DCS etc might have 20% of the combined arms as in land sea and air AH has today.  Back in the day a full server with every gun in the fleet manned and a massive furball just of shore with Sarge shoulting turn the CV you turds. I was 40lbs lighter in those days but literally started to sweat the action was so intense back then.  800 in the server and 100's on each side, 10 LVT'S in the water, continuous take offs on the carrier deck and the HELP channel busy. Just manning the 4 inch was intense action even on a destroyer and people queing up to get in the server. Literally 100's of troops on the beech. 

Sadly we will never see it again. AH was something unique. So many skilled and invested players fighting wonderful battles.

5000 subscribers paying £900,000 dollars a year. I guess in the gaming industry it was not enough to keep up. It was not a wham bam but if you look on U TUBE it just does not look sexy. 

It is a shame as all AH really lacks now is numbers.

DCS is primarily a single player it seems that builds into multiple servers of modest numbers but some are approaching 3 digits but nothing like AH back in the day. Huge time investment to learn just one plane so there are those who will spend the time still but the majority want to fly modern jets. Its interesting though that allot of their frame on reference now in a very simple on board radar screen similar to a 1980's video game  . Not trying to make a point but rather I am confused by that immersion.