Ban Tempests

[hazmatt]

I remember one time I ran down a tempest with a 262 and was able to get him within a couple turns. Seems some of these tempest pile-its game runs out when they get caught.

[Animl-AW]

How does Tempest compare to F4U-4? I think this is more about the player than then plane. Could a good pilot beat the Tempest in question? 

Agreed

Thats the problem. Its not the plane, its how its exploited.

Perked, it may force some to take another uber plane the same way.

[DmonSlyr]

How does Tempest compare to F4U-4? I think this is more about the player than then plane. Could a good pilot beat the Tempest in question? 

The F4U4 lacks cannons which IMO is extremely important. This means it normally gets picked having to chase planes longer due to the 50s not downing planes quickly enough. The Temp has the overall best 20s in the game. One pass with a few bullets insta towers planes. It makes a hell of a difference to get the kill quickly rather than having to chase with 50s that take 100s of them it seems. Especially on Bombers.

The F4u4 will out turn it and out dive it, but can it out accelerate and catch it? Im not so sure. The F4u4 invites 1v1 fights more than Temps, which gets players picked in them easier.

The Tempest is much stronger in the attack position due to the cannons and body strength.

Theres a reason why more guys use the temp than the F4u4. I think its because they'd rather hit X and run, and always dictate the fight on their advantage and terms and mostly, be able to run from the gangers, which I do understand that to a point, but being in an advantage plane doesn't make it very fun for the other payers.

[uptown]

Sure, if the Tempest fights, but they dont. Pick and run is the main tactic. If they get carless and end up in a possible HO, they go for it counting on the cannons and good aim.

They used to do that stuff in the dueling arena of all places....them and -4 Hogs.  It kinda took the fun out of it for me.

Some just have a need to prove something, I guess. Restricting them to certain bases or zones might clip their wings a bit.

Didn't AH have something like that at one time anyway?

[The Fugitive]

They used to do that stuff in the dueling arena of all places....them and -4 Hogs.  It kinda took the fun out of it for me.

Some just have a need to prove something, I guess. Restricting them to certain bases or zones might clip their wings a bit.

Didn't AH have something like that at one time anyway?

Nope not at all, these guys love to rearm and move toward the "pickers paradise" to get all there kills.

[caldera]

Always HO temps or other perk planes, it’s just good economic warfare.

Also if the other guy is in a perk plane he wasn’t looking for a fight anyway.

That is good advice.  I got burned a few times trying to avoid the HO and instead caught a "deflection shot". 

It's better to take your chances head on.  At least you might score a radiator hit, or get sand in her vajayjay.

[DmonSlyr]

If youll look at stats, the Tempest got the second most fighter kills last tour with a slightly lower K/D than the 163 and 262, who only had 443 kills combined. If you look a the top pilots. Its all almost the same guys getting most of the kills in all 3. All long time vets, all know exactly what they are doing, and even the #1 fighter rank OldAngus got his #1 fighter rank in 262 and 163s only. And do I think these guys help the #s? Not at all, if anything, they chase players out because no one has a chance at fighting these guys most of the time. Its just laziness.

[hazmatt]

If youll look at stats, the Tempest got the second most fighter kills last tour with a slightly lower K/D than the 163 and 262, who only had 443 kills combined. If you look a the top pilots. Its all almost the same guys getting most of the kills in all 3. All long time vets, all know exactly what they are doing, and even the #1 fighter rank OldAngus got his #1 fighter rank in 262 and 163s only. And do I think these guys help the #s? Not at all, if anything, they chase players out because no one has a chance at fighting these guys most of the time. Its just laziness.

Maybe get together a posse of 262s?

[haggerty]

Tempest #1 in kills now, needs a solid 3-4x price increase.  Though the people that use it are all long time players that probably have 2 million perks.

[caldera]

Tempest #1 in kills now, needs a solid 3-4x price increase.  Though the people that use it are all long time players that probably have 2 million perks.

Yep.  Increasing the cost will only ensure those same leet pilots are the only ones in Tempons.  Which will no doubt encourage more of the same.


Imagine how a newer player must feel, if regular Joes are getting routinely clobbered.  This can't be good for the game.

[DmonSlyr]

Yep.  Increasing the cost will only ensure those same leet pilots are the only ones in Tempons.  Which will no doubt encourage more of the same.


Imagine how a newer player must feel, if regular Joes are getting routinely clobbered.  This can't be good for the game.

Maybe maybe not. I mean the 262 gets 1/4th the kills of Tempest. Is that because its a better plane or is it because the Tempest is so much cheaper?

Regardless, less of these planes in the air regardless of who is flying is the best approach.

[Eagler]

Each tour should come with a sortie limit by plane type..

A max of 20 sorties per tour of a specific plane and that plane is locked out until next month.. 

Take haggertys monthly winners and block them from their plane the following tour..

Variety is the spice of life!

Eagler

[caldera]

Each tour should come with a sortie limit by plane type..

A max of 20 sorties per tour of a specific plane and that plane is locked out until next month.. 

Take haggertys monthly winners and block them from their plane the following tour..

Variety is the spice of life!


Eagler

Make it 10 per tour for perk planes.  And make all perks non-refundable, even with a successful landing.  They are gone as soon as the sortie starts. 

Maybe maybe not. I mean the 262 gets 1/4th the kills of Tempest. Is that because its a better plane or is it because the Tempest is so much cheaper?

Regardless, less of these planes in the air regardless of who is flying is the best approach.

A bit of both probably, but Hispanos are much easier to kill fighters with.

[waystin2]

I think limiting planes is a choice you can make for yourself, not others. 

[AKDogg]

Personally I think all and I mean all late war planes should be perked to something.  Starting at like 5 perks for the least performing plane to skies the limit for best performance plane.  Just my thought on this.