An intersting discussion on AI augmented programming

[Brooke]

We'll see if this (a) is another step in how technological development as always worked in the past (new thing puts some people out of work, but creates 10x that many jobs overall and increases productivity and world wealth) or (b) just replaces most all humans.

I'd bet on (a) if I had to bet, but I don't give it 100% chance. It's just that it is how it has always worked, every time throughout history up to now.

[AKIron]

The world population is still growing. In 1925 is was about 2 billion. In 2025 it's over 8 billion. We need technology advancements to sustain this growth.

[CptTrips]

The world population is still growing. In 1925 is was about 2 billion. In 2025 it's over 8 billion. We need technology advancements to sustain this growth.

I would like to see it at 5 billion.

[RichardDarkwood]

I would like to see it at 5 billion.

OK Thanos

[CptTrips]

OK Thanos

There are a finite amount of resources.  The more people you have them have to share.  You just end up with a lot more people living poorer, more miserable lives.

It would be better to have a managed number living a richer fuller life.

Have you been to a walmart lately? Do you really think we couldn't benefit from shedding half the human population? 

[AKIron]

40 billion. If Trantor can do it....

[CptTrips]

40 billion. If Trantor can do it....

YEah.  That worked out well.

[AKIron]

Seems only about 10% of the Earth's land mass is populated. Imagine if technology could make uninhabitable lands like deserts habitable even at the individual level. Would we still congregate in cities?

[CptTrips]

Seems only about 10% of the Earth's land mass is populated. Imagine if technology could make uninhabitable lands like deserts habitable even at the individual level. Would we still congregate in cities?

Is there an advantage to more people?  Just to have more?  Other than guaranteeing Soylent Green material for the foreseeable future. And cannon fodder. Maybe medical experiments.  I guess space colonization maybe.

Isn't mindless uncontrolled growth just called cancer? 

[Eagler]

Our social programs require a pyramid system of workers for them to even half way work...

It's the reason they let in millions of illegals the last 4 years

How does AI fit into the Idiocracy world we live in today..

What does it say a man or woman is?

Eagler

[AKIron]

I was being flippant. We don't need more people. However, if technology advances sufficiently this planet can support a lot more people far less crowded that we are now.

[CptTrips]

I was being flippant. We don't need more people. However, if technology advances sufficiently this planet can support a lot more people far less crowded that we are now.

I could see that.  The need to clump together in massive cities may one day not be necessary.  That started when people had to walk or ride a horse to work.  With commuter highspeed rail and remote work, we can unclump.

That would help.  You pack rats in too small a space they go nuts and start chewing their faces off.

I could see a spread out network of small communities.  Plato argued that once a community gets beyond about 5k it start becoming dysfunctional.  I think that is somewhat limit by travel time.  We can spread out a bit more.  I figure with autos and such, a 20k town is about perfect.  AS long as it's just big enough to justify a Walmart and Home Depot.

Especially if they get those micro nuclear reactor going.  Each small community can have their own.

[xanax]

As a broken, unhinged singer once said: "We'll make great pets."

This was my 500th post so going forward all my posts will be AI enhanced and posted by a bot. Nearly 26 years of drivel replaced by concise, precise information and AI generated non-random small talk. Ask me anything.

Pet

[AKIron]

This is pretty cool.

https://artsandculture.google.com/experiment/YwHOYiNQj-3wmg

[Brooke]

There are a finite amount of resources.

The Malthusian argument. But finite resources are ones that we have gotten more and more of with technology.  And ones that truly run out anytime soon are replaceable by other things without too much trouble.  Ones that might run out in 100's or 1000's of years are replaceable, too.  Every resource is non-finite with enough energy and tech.  And we could easily have cheap abundant energy (and might still) unless stupidity continues to get in the way.

It would be better to have a managed number living a richer fuller life.

Historically, such has been eventually a party for the managers and not so great for the managed plebeians.

I think that man's destiny is colonization of space.