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Offline DmonSlyr

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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 01:03:59 PM »
I'm sorry Fugitive but that is all your opinion. If the game is going to have scores and metrics that people can strive for, it must have integrity or else there is no reason for score in the first place and players who do actually want to be #1 or have the best K/D or most kills that month in a plane one time will not have a chance. And now you are just inviting more gamers to abuse the system shooting dual accounts. Gee thanks. Thats not a game anyone wants to play. I strive to ensure that the game is being played fairly. Yes I beeyotch about planes and ganging for good reason, but that is gameplay, not manipulation and targeting to advance ones position over others in a way that's not natural to gameplay. I will not tolerate that.

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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 01:18:20 PM »

Finally, do I care? No,


Thats the problem, 'most' players dont play for score (I do not) but some that do, do it legitimately.
Finetime makes it a mission even with all the accounts he has, we can attest to him using them for legitimate honest play.
Never did he use them for nefarious reasons (spot CVs or intercept missions) and I am sure anyone in LCA would be told to stop or get kicked out. Same thing here.

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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 01:22:17 PM »
Im not inviting anyone to abuse the system, the system invites it. As I said there is no way to make a score/ranking system in this game that is fool proof. There are too many variables that even without trying tweak the scores/ranks. It is just the nature of the beast.

I would love to see the game "played fairly", but what is fairly to me may not be fairly to someone else. I have always held that it is not honorable to fire in a head on merge, and have been laughed at the entire time. I have a hard time with players who say they are here to fight and then take away any chance of a fight by HOing on any/every head on pass. Others say firring on any shot presented is fair game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Which is it?

I agree what Huckster did was over the line, but if Hitech doesnt come in and "lay down a law" there isnt anything anyone can do.

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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #63 on: Yesterday at 03:35:23 PM »
Evidently the drop in drama created withdraws.

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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #64 on: Yesterday at 07:07:07 PM »
Im not inviting anyone to abuse the system, the system invites it. As I said there is no way to make a score/ranking system in this game that is fool proof. There are too many variables that even without trying tweak the scores/ranks. It is just the nature of the beast.

I would love to see the game "played fairly", but what is fairly to me may not be fairly to someone else. I have always held that it is not honorable to fire in a head on merge, and have been laughed at the entire time. I have a hard time with players who say they are here to fight and then take away any chance of a fight by HOing on any/every head on pass. Others say firring on any shot presented is fair game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Which is it?

I agree what Huckster did was over the line, but if Hitech doesnt come in and "lay down a law" there isnt anything anyone can do.

There is a complete difference between tactics and farming kills. Im not talking about how people play the game. Im talking about blatant score manipulation which is not a "natural occurrence" ie, they didnt earn the score through naturally playing. I dont play for score 100% either. If I really cared. I'd fly temps every sortie and go #1 every month but I know it wouldn't be good for the game and it isnt the most fun gameplay for me either. Sitting there shooting yourself over and over again to boost your killstats and rank is not something that should be tolerated.
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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #65 on: Yesterday at 07:23:39 PM »
Im not inviting anyone to abuse the system, the system invites it. As I said there is no way to make a score/ranking system in this game that is fool proof. There are too many variables that even without trying tweak the scores/ranks. It is just the nature of the beast.

I would love to see the game "played fairly", but what is fairly to me may not be fairly to someone else. I have always held that it is not honorable to fire in a head on merge, and have been laughed at the entire time. I have a hard time with players who say they are here to fight and then take away any chance of a fight by HOing on any/every head on pass. Others say firring on any shot presented is fair game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Which is it?

I agree what Huckster did was over the line, but if Hitech doesnt come in and "lay down a law" there isnt anything anyone can do.

Apples to Oranges. two completely different topics. Vulching/ HOing is part of the game and you have an option to avoid both. It is not nearly on the same level as using shades to pad score, find CVs and/or bust missions.
No rules setup to where its mandatory you kick those players out of a squad but MOST squads have some dignity and will remove those players from the roster.
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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 08:38:24 PM »
There is a complete difference between tactics and farming kills. Im not talking about how people play the game. Im talking about blatant score manipulation which is not a "natural occurrence" ie, they didnt earn the score through naturally playing. I dont play for score 100% either. If I really cared. I'd fly temps every sortie and go #1 every month but I know it wouldn't be good for the game and it isnt the most fun gameplay for me either. Sitting there shooting yourself over and over again to boost your killstats and rank is not something that should be tolerated.

That's why I don't pay attention to points/perks/score, they can be gamed and don't really always show top talent. No tweak can change that. You'll just drive yourself nuts.
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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #67 on: Yesterday at 09:12:03 PM »
That's why I don't pay attention to points/perks/score, they can be gamed and don't really always show top talent. No tweak can change that. You'll just drive yourself nuts.

It's not about you and your preferences, the same with Fugitive. It doesnt matter if you try for score or not. And no, it cannot be "gamed" unless you are farming kills or targeting, which farming is what they are doing. Being a good pilot and understanding how to score well, even in noob super planes IS NOT the same thing as farming kills and their abilities within the AH scoring system shouldn't be undermined by such gamers.
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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #68 on: Yesterday at 09:15:46 PM »
Scores and stats are a bit different..

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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #69 on: Yesterday at 09:29:20 PM »
It's not about you and your preferences, the same with Fugitive. It doesnt matter if you try for score or not. And no, it cannot be "gamed" unless you are farming kills or targeting, which farming is what they are doing. Being a good pilot and understanding how to score well, even in noob super planes IS NOT the same thing as farming kills and their abilities within the AH scoring system shouldn't be undermined by such gamers.

Well that's all good and I get it, but you have much bigger problems than one person porking the scores/stats/perks.
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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #70 on: Yesterday at 09:31:20 PM »
Huckster is probably 12
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Re: Huckster gaming the ranks
« Reply #71 on: Yesterday at 10:52:58 PM »
Huckster is probably 12

He actually sounds like a 70 year old man on local, and his excuse for farming involved a granddaughter...

Score may be easy to game, but cream rises to the top, it still takes skill to be the best in some of the categories.   There is a reason that I'm #1 every month, gaming scores only gets you so far, you still have to be better than me to dethrone me.  While I don't game the score, its easy to detect when others are attempting it; Like Skyhawk just doing solo mossie runs so he can drop a cookie on town centers....or guys only using 262 or Tempest for the fighter sorties, people like Cat7 refusing to up if there is a chance he'll die...

You'll find me at the capped base trying to save it from hordes, but daily am called a score dweeb just because im good at killing people.
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