Sig 365

[1Cane]

There is a video of a guy who jiggles slide and weapon discharges. I believe  a military unit took them out of service. I Believe Glock had a reputation for being dropped and shooting LEO's both are striker fired.
Once out of Army I bought a Colt 1911 is was an accurate Pistol. and if you ran out of ammo a great club.
Next after seeing movie Serpico got a Smith & Wesson  9mm with high capacity mag at a hardware store In Kalifornia in the good old days
 Finally with delays with DOJ over purchase of Smith & Wesson" was bought with 10 day waiting  period and they couldn't find record of 1978 purchase" I bought an HK 9mm  only complaint  magazine release is small an on rear of  trigger guard
All three guns have old fashion hammer.
All have worked great
Finally I have a taking care of business feeling with the hammer back.
What say you striker fire Glock or Sig owners

[uptown]

You ever tried a 1858 Remington .44 cal black powder revolver with a .45LR conversion cylinder? I have a GI issue 1911 and I don't know which one I like best between the two.

I've always stayed away from Sig and Glock for all the problems I hear about. I have been wanting to try out the High Point 10mm but I hear they're problematic as well.

[hazmatt]

I Believe Glock had a reputation for being dropped and shooting LEO's both are striker fired.
What say you striker fire Glock or Sig owners

I don't own any Sigs and I've heard the top of the line ones are good but the budget ones seem to be not so good.
Although Sig denies it P320 appears to have some issues. ICE and some police departments (e.g., Dallas, Milwaukee) have stopped issuing the P320 due to safety concerns.


I'm no Glock fanboy but I do think that at that price point it is one of the better DAO firearms for new shooter. It' a gun you toss to somebody who's not very proficient and they can make it go bang. My wife is very good with her G19 and she's had a few firearms.
I have never heard about drop issues with Glocks and I've dropped one at least once.
Glocks have a three-part safety system, including a firing pin safety and drop safety. These prevent the firing pin from moving forward unless the trigger is deliberately pulled. So even if dropped, the internal safeties block accidental discharge. In short: No trigger pull = no bang, even if it hits the ground hard.

I have a Hi-Point 9mm that's a tackle box gun and for that it's great. It's reliable as long as you maintain it and don't use garbage ammo that the Glocks would shoot with ease.
I'd consider a Hi-Point 10 mm based on my experience with them and the fact that you can get it for under $200.

I found this comparison between the two:
Feature                  | Glock "Safe Action" System         | Sig P320 (Pre-Upgrade)
------------------------|------------------------------------|-------------------------------
Trigger Safety          | Yes – integrated safety tab        | Yes – but lacked external safeties
Drop Safety             | Proven drop-safe design            | Some models had drop-fire issues
Manual Safety         | Rare (mostly LE/military variants) | Available on some models
Internal Safeties      | 3 automatic safeties               | Varies by model and generation
History of Discharges  | Very rare accidental discharges    | Multiple lawsuits and reports

[DmonSlyr]

Here's an interesting video about it. Surprised Sig Sauer is trying to act like nothing wrong...

https://rumble.com/v6x0fq0-why-is-the-military-still-fielding-this-gun-sig-sauer-is-toast.html

[hazmatt]

That's interesting. Sticking a screw in the trigger kinda looks like a setup and the fact that the same thing causes other firearms to discharge makes me wonder how credible that one is.For sure if I had one of those I wouldn't carry one in the chamber.

I usually don't have one in the chamber anyways 'cause I have kids around I I figure it's an added safety step I can take and I can rack a slide pretty quick.

[Animl-AW]

You ever tried a 1858 Remington .44 cal black powder revolver with a .45LR conversion cylinder? I have a GI issue 1911 and I don't know which one I like best between the two.

I've always stayed away from Sig and Glock for all the problems I hear about. I have been wanting to try out the High Point 10mm but I hear they're problematic as well.

I had a 1873 ( I think, may have year wrong) copy of a .44 8" black power revolver, what a beast. Problem with BP on revolvers is the residue builds up quick and it takes full strength to pull the trigger after about 5-7 shots. So if you don't nail it with in the first 3-4 shots, good luck

Still in love with my original 1985 .357 mag 6" Colt Python. Was offered $4k for it,.... NOPE

[1Cane]

Have always carried round in chamber.

[uptown]

I had a 1873 ( I think, may have year wrong) copy of a .44 8" black power revolver, what a beast. Problem with BP on revolvers is the residue builds up quick and it takes full strength to pull the trigger after about 5-7 shots. So if you don't nail it with in the first 3-4 shots, good luck

Still in love with my original 1985 .357 mag 6" Colt Python. Was offered $4k for it,.... NOPE

That's why I bought the .45LR conversion cylinder. No gumming and no misfires...no black powder needed. The only downside to it is, you won't pack it around without being noticed because it's a hog leg for sure. It is heavy but not much more so than my 1911. It has the 8" barrel. Ever in a shoulder holster it's pretty noticeable.  I load 5 rounds and keep the 6 chamber empty to prevent it going off when dropped or something. Kinda a safety if you will. Pull the hammer back and she's ready to go. 

[Tumor]

Have always carried round in chamber.

Me too.  All makes/models & calibers.  I've moved to carrying revolvers almost exclusively.  I don't know why really... but the warm fuzzy factor is higher.  Maybe because not once ever have I had a malfunction or failure to fire beyond bad ammo.  Or maybe I'm just old fashioned.

[Animl-AW]

Me too.  All makes/models & calibers.  I've moved to carrying revolvers almost exclusively.  I don't know why really... but the warm fuzzy factor is higher.  Maybe because not once ever have I had a malfunction or failure to fire beyond bad ammo.  Or maybe I'm just old fashioned.

Both
I'm exactly the same.
It's not going to jam.

And if ya need more that 3 shots you allowed yourself in the wrong situation.

[Animl-AW]

That's why I bought the .45LR conversion cylinder. No gumming and no misfires...no black powder needed. The only downside to it is, you won't pack it around without being noticed because it's a hog leg for sure. It is heavy but not much more so than my 1911. It has the 8" barrel. Ever in a shoulder holster it's pretty noticeable.  I load 5 rounds and keep the 6 chamber empty to prevent it going off when dropped or something. Kinda a safety if you will. Pull the hammer back and she's ready to go. 

Not sure they were available in the 80s-90s. If so I was clueless. They are hard to conceal.

[icepac]

That's interesting. Sticking a screw in the trigger kinda looks like a setup and the fact that the same thing causes other firearms to discharge makes me wonder how credible that one is.For sure if I had one of those I wouldn't carry one in the chamber.

I usually don't have one in the chamber anyways 'cause I have kids around I I figure it's an added safety step I can take and I can rack a slide pretty quick.

   

Reminds me of how Audi got set up by journalists.

Even on the models where it has become obvious, It only happens when the slide to frame connection wears and gets sloppy.

Other sigs similarily designed have the same issue for the same reason but they are in unpopular calilbers mostly or you would hear more of them.      P232 looks suspect but only in cases of extreme wear.........meaning almost enough wear for it to bind or come off.   

Proper gun care isn't observed by everybody so expect the non-maintainer's guns to wear a lot faster than yours.

[hazmatt]

   Proper gun care isn't observed by everybody so expect the non-maintainer's guns to wear a lot faster than yours.

You mean there's more to it then taking the gun out of the tackle box and using a wire brush to get the rust off of it?

[1Cane]

Me too.  All makes/models & calibers.  I've moved to carrying revolvers almost exclusively.  I don't know why really... but the warm fuzzy factor is higher.  Maybe because not once ever have I had a malfunction or failure to fire beyond bad ammo.  Or maybe I'm just old fashioned.

I am alive because first 2 rounds misfired on a revolver third missed me and as I was taught in the Army take immediate action.