History Lesson Battle of Yarmouk

[1Cane]

Historian https://www.raymondibrahim.com/
Raymond Ibrahim video Battle of Yarmouk
If you ever get the chance take the tour of Fredericksburg. The Confederates had the high ground and the  Federal troops were attacking. The Reb's were appalled at the Federal troops actions And when asked what to do Stonewall Jackson said "Kill them all" Bad  day to be a Yankee
 I know A man who was in the surge in Irag 2006.They had gone to a school on a meet and great handing out supplies to students. The next day insurgents went and killed students ,He told me this story and when asked what to do he said "Kill them all"
 This is a from Marco Polo [1271-1295]" The extremist will cut your Head off the moderate will just hold  your legs"
 The Battle of Yarmouk was in 8-15-636 and if you watch the video you will see the plan hasn't changed. He tells the story as a historian and I found it interesting that they are still using the same plan 1400 years later

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I was babbling so I just deleted my post

[hazmatt]

I was babbling so I just deleted my post

I have that experience with AI... I guess the AI devs thing more is better even when it has nothing to do with the subject.

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I spent 8hrs or so in Chemo today, so my head is all over the place. But the gist of what I was trying to say is, all the military colleges teach these types of tactics going all the way back to the ancient Greeks and Romans and Alexander the Great etc.

Stonewall Jackson taught at WestPoint although he did so reluctantly. He studied this stuff constantly and but also relied heavily on Bible scripture and prayer.  If Stonewall was still alive at Gettysburg, Lee would of used him instead of Longstreet's cav, and the CSA would of won that battle imo.

[1Cane]

I spent 8hrs or so in Chemo today, so my head is all over the place. But the gist of what I was trying to say is, all the military colleges teach these types of tactics going all the way back to the ancient Greeks and Romans and Alexander the Great etc.

Stonewall Jackson taught at WestPoint although he did so reluctantly. He studied this stuff constantly and but also relied heavily on Bible scripture and prayer.  If Stonewall was still alive at Gettysburg, Lee would of used him instead of Longstreet's cav, and the CSA would of won that battle imo.

I pray that the treatment works

[AKIron]

I spent 8hrs or so in Chemo today, so my head is all over the place. But the gist of what I was trying to say is, all the military colleges teach these types of tactics going all the way back to the ancient Greeks and Romans and Alexander the Great etc.

Stonewall Jackson taught at WestPoint although he did so reluctantly. He studied this stuff constantly and but also relied heavily on Bible scripture and prayer.  If Stonewall was still alive at Gettysburg, Lee would of used him instead of Longstreet's cav, and the CSA would of won that battle imo.

I went to the second grade at a school named Stonewall Jackson in Dallas. They changed the name of that school a few years ago. Probably the best school I ever attended. Still have fond memories from there. It'll always be Stonewall to me.

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Chemo sucks bad but it is working. 1 more to go and surgery 

Anyhoo, You mentioned Fredericksburg. I have 3 family members that were in that battle with the youngest one being only 12 at the time. Can you imagine? He was a drummer boy, but still. The horrors he must have seen boggles my mind and saddens me that many, many children on both sides had to endure such things.  All 3 from the 32nd Virginia Infantry.
Last month I bought a 3 volume set titled, "Civil War" by Shelby Foote. It's a ton of reading, but well worth the time. He lays out the war from the perspective from both sides and is quite eye opening. I've been lucky as my cousin is Tim Smith, a widely known historian and member of the Battlefield Trust, who buys land to preserve these battlefields for future generations to learn from and understand the real cost and scale of that war. As a boy I was shown the pictures and letters from soldiers on both sides at Tim's family home in Dare Va. I knew long ago that both sides were at fault for what happened, and it's sad to me that only the one side of the story gets told most of the time.
Was the CSA wrong? Absolutely...but so was the North. This is what I've concluded from almost 4 decades of study and research. ANd with a little help from Tim. 

[Oldman731]

I've been lucky as my cousin is Tim Smith, a widely known historian and member of the Battlefield Trust, who buys land to preserve these battlefields for future generations to learn from and understand the real cost and scale of that war.

Pay attention to the man.  Not many qualify to be licensed battlefield guides at Gettysburg:

Timothy H. Smith has been a Licensed Battlefield Guide at Gettysburg National Military Park for over 25 years and is currently the Director of Education at the Adams County Historical Society (ACHS). He was also named County Historian in 2023. Tim has been involved with ACHS since the late 1980s when he began volunteering as a research assistant. He is the author of ten books and numerous articles about the Civil War, the Gettysburg Campaign, and a host of other local history topics. Tim is also a historical consultant for the American Battlefield Trust and a frequent lecturer at Civil War Round Tables and Seminars, and appears regularly on the Pennsylvania Cable Network’s Battle Walks Series. Tim is recognized as one of the leading experts on the Battle of Gettysburg and all aspects of Adams County history.

https://www.achs-pa.org/staff-board-of-trustees/timothy-h-smith/

OTOH, I have my reservations about Foote's books.  He imagines many things that he doesn't document.  Dead now, though.

- oldman

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As a kid I would go over to Tim's dad's house and off on one side of the house was a room with nothing but Civil War stuff, Bullets, cannon balls, buttons, buckles, guns,,,you name it. It pretty cool to say the least. And they wouldn't let me touch a dang thing!

I understand what you mean by Shelby Foote's work. But the way he writes is what draws me in, I think. As I see him as a writer and is also an historian. A rare combination compared to reading or listening to pure historian lectures. Although Tim knows he stuff, he could put me to sleep in half an hour, where I could listen to Shelby talk all night