Tier List of Sticks

[Gunzo]

Sir, sit down.

Looked to me like Achilles and Warthog were pretty even, but who are they?

No idea who the players in that film were? Nobody I know 

TopGunzo
You fly 'em, I'll fry 'em!

[Gunzo]

So its clear the committee is discredited and not good enough and experienced enough to provide an accurate assessment of tiered sticks in all of AH history.

It's worse than that. It doesn't take skill or experience to know that lists are for players who earn their place, not dirty dealers with unscrupulous helpers 

TopGunzo
You fly 'em, I'll fry 'em!

[LCADolby]

Sir, sit down.

Is this SkyyrShade Vs KruelShade or VraciuShade and you just sub in the names of players you wish Skyyr could beat?

[Kruel]

Is this SkyyrShade Vs KruelShade or VraciuShade and you just sub in the names of players you wish Skyyr could beat?

No, even TC called us to tell us privately that was Gunzo, when he was alive. Skyyr sat on this film for years before posting it, primarily because TC admitted to us that Gunzo is Badboy and he didn't want us to bring any negative attention to him at the time, being Damned and everything.

This was one of Gunzo's many nicks over the years. As shown even in the film Gunzo himself posted, Gunzo would create random names, follow us around using a 2nd account, and attempt to hunt us down in the MA with massive altitude advantages, usually while we were engaged, then proceed to talk trash while running back to the tower. WartHog did this once, and failed, while talking a lot of typical Gunzo trash. We realized it was Gunzo, so Skyyr made an alt and dueled him when he found him in the DA.

What's funny is he had three massive giveaways: He's usually use a new account, he'd start talking non-stop if he managed to get a kill (never before), and he'd delete the account if he died to Skyyr (or whoever he was hunting). We finally finally realized he'd do this because if he kept it and we had films of killing him, then his tactics wouldn't work.

Gunzo's used many such names over the years, using the exact same tactics, including Bingo, TopShot, etc. Sky posted many of these videos privately in our FB group.

Here's another one, where he was dumb enough to use a similar enough name "TopShot" from the last time Skyyr played. Skyyr recently posted the film below and I'm guessing that's why Gunzo is all sore and bothered now.



Got to give him props, the one thing he knew how to do was a sustained max-rate turn (which again, was one of his signature moves). That was ALL he had, but it was admirable.

[LCADolby]

There are more than 1 person in the AcesHigh community that fly in that manner, TC when he was alive being one of them.

Do you have any substantiated evidence to back up you claim, otherwise you're just shooting your shot in the dark and wasting you life sucking Skyyr toes.

[Kruel]

There are more than 1 person in the AcesHigh community that fly in that manner, TC when he was alive being one of them.

Do you have any substantiated evidence to back up you claim, otherwise you're just shooting your shot in the dark and wasting you life sucking Skyyr toes.

Well, I could pull out my old cell phone and post the audio from the phone call with TC, but the last time I offered to do that regarding things TC said, I was told multiple times not to We learned quickly that TC would tell many people many things, and so it was wise to record what he told us. I got a temporary ban once for posting a phone call from TC after parted ways and he made a claim about something that had occurred.

Aside from that, the flight style gives it away pretty clearly, but that's anecdotal and subjective. TC's word was all that was needed.

Of course, what proof does anyone have if they're not using their main names? Seems to me, using your own logic, that no fight should ever count for anyone unless they post proof it was of their name on their account, which not even Gunzo can do with his past hiders.

This reminds me of the time you challenged Skyyr to post proof he made you quit, then you had his video proof removed because it was of your livestream. Thank God for RuTube 

Miss you Dobby!

[GOODBYE]

It’s always fun to watch the tictac measuring contest resurface every couple months 

[LCADolby]

Well, I could pull out my old cell phone and post the audio from the phone call with TC, but the last time I offered to do that regarding things TC said, I was told multiple times not to We learned quickly that TC would tell many people many things, and so it was wise to record what he told us. I got a temporary ban once for posting a phone call from TC after parted ways and he made a claim about something that had occurred.

Aside from that, the flight style gives it away pretty clearly, but that's anecdotal and subjective. TC's word was all that was needed.

Then again, what proof does anyone have if they're not using their main names? Seems to me, using your own logic, that no fight should ever count for anyone unless they post proof it was of their name on their account, which not even Gunzo can do with his past hiders.

This reminds me of the time you challenged Skyyr to post proof he made you quit, then you had his video proof removed because it was of your livestream.

Miss you Dobby!

The deflection attack onto me shows you have nothing and you've been derailed.

[Kruel]

The deflection attack onto me shows you have nothing and you've been derailed.

There's no deflection, sir. I'm saying the proof that I have, I have been warned not to post openly as it's audio recordings of phone calls with TC (RIP). The last time I posted one of the recordings (it was over flying multiple countries, Damned was traditionally Knights only), I got a temporary ban for posting "private information", even though the phone call was simply a recording to TC saying we could fly whatever country we wanted.

The fact you're aware of his previous involvements with Badboy and hunting people tells me you know what I'm referring to.

[LCADolby]

There's no deflection, sir. I'm saying the proof that I have, I have been warned not to post openly as it's audio recordings of phone calls with TC (RIP). The last time I posted one of the recordings (it was over flying multiple countries, Damned was traditionally Knights only), I got a temporary ban for posting "private information", even though the phone call was simply a recording to TC saying we could fly whatever country we wanted.

The fact you're aware of his previous involvements with Badboy and hunting people tells me you know what I'm referring to.

No deflection, so why bring it up, it's a deflection, call the spade a spade and you lashed out because I called your bluff.

TC saying you can fly where you want seems a non-issue, you guys would do whatever it is Skyyr wanted to do without thought and without requiring TC's say so.

Hunting people is a Skyyr and was a TC thing when he used to shade and troll people into the dirt, one reason I have absolutely zero reverence for TC.
Involements with Badboy; who do you mean TC or Gunzo and to what exactly are you referring to?

[Kruel]

No deflection, so why bring it up, it's a deflection, call the spade a spade and you lashed out because I called your bluff.

TC saying you can fly where you want seems a non-issue, you guys would do whatever it is Skyyr wanted to do without thought and without requiring TC's say so.

Hunting people is a Skyyr and was a TC thing when he used to shade and troll people into the dirt, one reason I have absolutely zero reverence for TC.
Involements with Badboy; who do you mean TC or Gunzo and to what exactly are you referring to?

It wasn't an issue of flying, it was an issue of TC saying he didn't say it, then getting in trouble for posting proof he did (the recording).

My point was, you ask for proof, and then deny said proof. The last time I posted a TC recording was probably 2014 or early 2015, exactly in a situation such as this. I have no reason or agenda to bring it up unless it actually occurred.

You forget, TC often used his position and influence to obtain people's hiders - don't ask me how, it just would happen. How do you think Skyyr knew you were Rept1le? I actually talked to TC and asked if it was him (TC himself), to which he said "nope." A bit later he called back and said "that's [name redacted], Dolby." I never even asked who the pilot was, only if it was him. 

[LCADolby]

It wasn't an issue of flying, it was an issue of TC saying he didn't say it, then getting in trouble for posting proof he did (the recording).

My point was, you ask for proof, and then deny said proof. The last time I posted a TC recording was probably 2014 or early 2015, exactly in a situation such as this. I have no reason or agenda to bring it up unless it actually occurred.

You forget, TC often used his position and influence to obtain people's hiders - don't ask me how, it just would happen. How do you think Skyyr knew you were Rept1le? I actually talked to TC and asked if it was him (TC himself), to which he said "nope." A bit later he called back and said "that's [name redacted], Dolby." I never even asked who the pilot was, only if it was him. 

I'm losing the thread of this tapestry of intrigue...

So you're saying TC is an unreliable source but then believing TC when directed in a manner that approves observation bias?
And that, because I used an opportunity to copyright strike Skyyr's Youtube channel, I therefore deny proof when it is presented.. This is a house built upon the sand my friend

So on top of the nefarious things TC had done infront of my eyes, you are taking the opportunity of throwing him under the bus for taking advantage of a position he held to look up the owners of certain accounts in the back ground of AcesHigh under HiTech's nose to tell who is using what shade and when?
Well this is something that should be brought up to HiTech about the security breaches he apparently may have.

But as you have said TC is unreliable so what of it if this isn't just another long winded elaborate deflections from providing more substantive proof...

[Gunzo]

Then again, what proof does anyone have if they're not using their main names?

So many skyyr films featuring many different players he claims are all me, but none of them are. He's never posted a film with me in it because he's never had a single Gunzo kill.

My film says it was Skyyr who got owned, not an aka Skyyr.

That film proved he was still up to his dirty tricks, proved it beyond a reasonable doubt!!

That's why you see so many aka gunzo films, he didn't just set up a rigged fight and then lost it, he lost the ability to continue stalking other players. Shortly after that he was gone for good.

That film doesn't just show a genuinely effortless Skyyr beat down, it shows his final attempt to stalk and hunt other players by unfair means. That's why he's still acting out about it years later.

Did someone say Karma.

TopGunzo
You fly 'em, I'll fry 'em!

[Kruel]

I'm losing the thread of this tapestry of intrigue...

So you're saying TC is an unreliable source but then believing TC when directed in a manner that approves observation bias?
And that, because I used an opportunity to copyright strike Skyyr's Youtube channel, I therefore deny proof when it is presented.. This is a house built upon the sand my friend

So on top of the nefarious things TC had done infront of my eyes, you are taking the opportunity of throwing him under the bus for taking advantage of a position he held to look up the owners of certain accounts in the back ground of AcesHigh under HiTech's nose to tell who is using what shade and when?
Well this is something that should be brought up to HiTech about the security breaches he apparently may have.

But as you have said TC is unreliable so what of it if this isn't just another long winded elaborate deflections from providing more substantive proof...

The proof is in the fact Skyyr called you out on being Rept1le like 8 years before you admitted it. That alone should rest the case.

You're the one who lied for almost a decade and then admitted it was you all along. Hey pot, meet kettle...

[LCADolby]

The proof is in the fact Skyyr called you out on being Rept1le like 8 years before you admitted it. That alone should rest the case.

You're the one who lied for almost a decade and then admitted it was you all along. Hey pot, meet kettle...

Who said I admitted it? Where did I admit it? When did I admit it?

This all a very good deflection, how long will you be digging this hole?