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Re: CFB 2025
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2025, 03:32:32 PM »



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Yeah, okay.


lol it’s not even close. But it’s ok, keep holding onto that thought.
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2025, 03:36:04 PM »
Where did Virgil discredit the athleticism of today's players or schemes.  He only pointed out the disgusting amount of showmanship and poor fundamentals that you most definitely will find in today's game.  I'll add that the wishbone offense, introduced in the late 60's, was the first RPO offense.

Fundamentals from 70s/80s have been removed from the game in the mid 90s. Different game today than it was back then. Schematics in general are a cycle, but I don’t completely agree that triple = RPO. Cousins sure, but not the same but it’s all a cycle, ideas get reinvented to something new.
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2025, 06:52:22 PM »
Not sure where you get the idea that American football works without the fundamentals of tackling, blocking, pass coverage, and that sort of thing, but, hey, it's your opinion, and you're welcome to it.
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Re: CFB 2025
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2025, 07:38:29 PM »
Fundamentals from 70s/80s have been removed from the game in the mid 90s. Different game today than it was back then. Schematics in general are a cycle, but I don’t completely agree that triple = RPO. Cousins sure, but not the same but it’s all a cycle, ideas get reinvented to something new.

How is it beneficial to the player, or schematicaly appealing to the defensive coordinator, for a player to lead off a tackle head lowered and with no intention of wrapping up?
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2025, 09:27:11 PM »
Fundamentals have changed, not been removed. Most fundamentals from the past do not work in today’s game.

QBs - drops changed - they are quicker/crisper, releases are quicker, throwing motions more refined. Kids are throwing better in younger ages, processing speed and football iq is greater

RB - more emphasis on complete backs, have to be able to run a route tree, higher emphasis on patience, setting up blocks, and being able to make proper cut. (Alex Gibbs run game didn’t get truly popularized til mid 90s)

WR - massive evolution from back in the day. They were in 3 point stances. The ability to create different releases, the stems in the routes, working off leverage points in coverages to get open. As a whole, massive evolution in the sport in WR techniques

OL - No flipper only blocking and heavy handed downhill blocking. Zone mechanics, gap schemes have changed on insert points technically, head placements on traps. Pass blocking mechanics are completely different. Have to be able to kick slide, vert set, jump set. This is a massive difference from the old days.


Defense - tackling has changed. You won’t see a high level coach teach head across. Too risky for concussions or shoulder injuries. You will see higher teachings of rugby tackles, gator tackles, and heart 2 heart profile tackles. To comment on the deal above when it comes to “ducking head”, never taught at high levels but in open field you are taught to run through the thigh boards of open field runners. Also to say that tackling is much safer today, and in the past they tackled with their head waaaaaay more than players today do.


DL - much less penetration, you play with your hands. Extension…length. You rarely see true vertical steps on 1st or 2nd down. NFL is slightly different because they are freaks. College is more controlled in that regard. Pete Jenkins is an 80s guy, and his theories are heavy in the game today.

LB - only a few teach down hill immediately, and that’s even evolved recently. Being able to freeze step, pop tops, and be able to cover is the difference. Have to be able to cover the pass.

CB - techniques never really changed, you can only pedal. T step or bicycle break so many ways. It’s harder today to play the position because of the rule changes. Have to be better technically to cover these receivers today. Can’t bully at the line and just grab and hold.


The game isn’t less technically sound. It’s just very different than the past. Comes down to blocking and tackling, but even those techniques have evolved and will continue to evolve.
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2025, 07:33:05 AM »
It will be flag football with large bubble helmets to save their brains before my grandkids are grandparents..

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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2025, 11:49:28 PM »
Fundamentals have changed, not been removed. Most fundamentals from the past do not work in today’s game.

QBs - drops changed - they are quicker/crisper, releases are quicker, throwing motions more refined. Kids are throwing better in younger ages, processing speed and football iq is greater

RB - more emphasis on complete backs, have to be able to run a route tree, higher emphasis on patience, setting up blocks, and being able to make proper cut. (Alex Gibbs run game didn’t get truly popularized til mid 90s)

WR - massive evolution from back in the day. They were in 3 point stances. The ability to create different releases, the stems in the routes, working off leverage points in coverages to get open. As a whole, massive evolution in the sport in WR techniques

OL - No flipper only blocking and heavy handed downhill blocking. Zone mechanics, gap schemes have changed on insert points technically, head placements on traps. Pass blocking mechanics are completely different. Have to be able to kick slide, vert set, jump set. This is a massive difference from the old days.


Defense - tackling has changed. You won’t see a high level coach teach head across. Too risky for concussions or shoulder injuries. You will see higher teachings of rugby tackles, gator tackles, and heart 2 heart profile tackles. To comment on the deal above when it comes to “ducking head”, never taught at high levels but in open field you are taught to run through the thigh boards of open field runners. Also to say that tackling is much safer today, and in the past they tackled with their head waaaaaay more than players today do.


DL - much less penetration, you play with your hands. Extension…length. You rarely see true vertical steps on 1st or 2nd down. NFL is slightly different because they are freaks. College is more controlled in that regard. Pete Jenkins is an 80s guy, and his theories are heavy in the game today.

LB - only a few teach down hill immediately, and that’s even evolved recently. Being able to freeze step, pop tops, and be able to cover is the difference. Have to be able to cover the pass.

CB - techniques never really changed, you can only pedal. T step or bicycle break so many ways. It’s harder today to play the position because of the rule changes. Have to be better technically to cover these receivers today. Can’t bully at the line and just grab and hold.


The game isn’t less technically sound. It’s just very different than the past. Comes down to blocking and tackling, but even those techniques have evolved and will continue to evolve.

You're making this way more complicated than it is.  Neck injury is neck injury.  The tackling techniques used today, by mostly DB's, cannot be defended and are downright dangerous to the player who is lowering, then leading with his head to make a tackle.   

Explain to me why the tackling technique used in this video is not still being taught in today's game?         

   
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Re: CFB 2025
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2025, 06:45:37 AM »
Just wondering if the rules for rugby have been changed to make the sport less physical..

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Re: CFB 2025
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 08:38:28 PM »
Razorbacks sitting 2-2. Both losses came with us in position to make the game winning score, but literally “fumbled” the opportunity. Of course, there were other problems leading up to that point (mainly poor defense).

Remaining schedule currently includes 6/8 being ranked opponents, going to be a tall order to even be bowl eligible. Lot of talk about parting with our HC, not much spark or care seems to be coming from Fayetteville - fans are disgruntled with performance stagnating/declining since the 2021 season going 9-4.

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Re: CFB 2025
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 10:55:20 PM »
You're making this way more complicated than it is.  Neck injury is neck injury.  The tackling techniques used today, by mostly DB's, cannot be defended and are downright dangerous to the player who is lowering, then leading with his head to make a tackle.   

Explain to me why the tackling technique used in this video is not still being taught in today's game?         




A profile heart to heart tackle shown above is exactly how 98% of teams teach it and is the preferred way by USA football organization.

You keep saying lowerin head but targeting has been in existence in recent times. It has made the game much safer than what was played in the 80s/90s. What you say is simply false.
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