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Offline hazmatt

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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #15 on: Today at 09:55:54 AM »
This.

I saw lots of dudes open carrying while living in Nevada. They'd waddle around Walmart cosplaying ex-Navy Seals or other SPEC-OPS. I'd say all of 'em were morbidly obese and thus "Gravy Meals" rather than Navy Seals. Open carry is a parade of coulda-shouldas but didn't and couldn't's. It's dumb and who are you trying to impress?

That's interesting. I haven't seen many people open carrying at all in the Texoma area, however I suspect there are many concealed carrying.

I think it all comes down to your mindset. I agree that some of those guys are wannabes. I remember watching the video of some couple shooting up a Walmart and one of those wannabe heros getting himself killed. My wife and I watched the video and we both agreed that instead of chasing/engaging the shooter, we would have gone out the door after the shooter passed even though both of us are always armed.

I carry because since I'm older I don't think and can't fight like I did 30 years ago and I never want to be in a position where I have to watch something happen to my wife or kids because I can't do anything about it. Granted a can of pepper spray and a .380 with 5 rounds isn't much, however I think most criminals look for people who have no way to defend themselves and it is my hope is that it will be enough, God forbid I'm ever in that situation.

That said I do believe there are some people who put themselves in a worse situation by having a firearm. In my experience there are two types.

The first type are the:
I'll rack the shotgun and scare them or I'll shoot the gun out of their hand types" They haven't ever had a confrontation with somebody hopped up on drugs and is out of their mind... These people are at high risk of being disarmed and shot with their own weapon.

The second type are the:
Ones that think having a gun makes them bigger and badder then they really are and gives them courage that they don't really have. These types risk writing checks that they can't cash and getting shot or jumped.

I also think that growing up with firearms makes a big difference. I received my first firearm more then 40 years ago and I grew up around them. I don't believe having one in my possession gives me superpowers, nor am I deluded about what I would have to do if I ever had to use one to protect my life or my families life.  I pray to God that day never comes.

The only time I open carry is if I'm hunting, as I carry a .45 or a G17 during those times in addition to my .380. I believe that given the option to carry concealed it is always better because like a knife, the deployment of a firearm from a concealed position with the element of surprise is always going to be more effective.


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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #16 on: Today at 10:01:22 AM »
I carry mine on my hip under my shirt. Not open carry but it may show at times.
Open carry can make you the first target for the turds.
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #17 on: Today at 10:45:30 AM »
Not true. Thats a claim, not fact. Its a form of denial. If you make this claim then back it up with what proves it. You also were in denial about TX AC problems that were easily dispelled.

Court dockets are public , they do not have to be “reported” its open access. To not report it on record would be a crime, coverup. Which means you have to coverup a murder for it not to be there.

Unless you point out how thats done its just an erroneous comment, which is purely political. And thats how you slip into political darkness.

Denial is a helluva drug. You have this habit with anything TX. You are prone to conspiracies


Actually, that fact has been published. But don't let that change your mind.

No, the DoJ does not have someone actually reviewing every court docket in the U.S. The DoJ actually depends upon the local and state agencies and courts to report their own crime statistics.

Hell, it's a proven fact that even federal government entities do not report to each other. There have been dozens of reported cases of federal government agencies failing to report offenses and adjudications to the proper agencies in order to prevent people who shouldn't have access to firearms from passing a federal background check.

But hey, you keep denying facts, and screaming about people posting politics, it's what you do, we wouldn't know you otherwise.
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #18 on: Today at 10:47:50 AM »
I carry mine on my hip under my shirt. Not open carry but it may show at times.
Open carry can make you the first target for the turds.

I have various holsters for a number of different firearms. Being over 6'1", and over 240#, there's a lot I can hide. I often carry large frame and full size pistols.


And yeah, open carry makes you a target, and a spectacle.
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #19 on: Today at 10:48:44 AM »
Not true. Thats a claim, not fact. Its a form of denial. If you make this claim then back it up with what proves it. You also were in denial about TX AC problems that were easily dispelled.

Court dockets are public , they do not have to be “reported” its open access. To not report it on record would be a crime, coverup. Which means you have to coverup a murder for it not to be there.

Unless you point out how thats done its just an erroneous comment, which is purely political. And thats how you slip into political darkness.

Denial is a helluva drug. You have this habit with anything TX. You are prone to conspiracies

Who is in denial? Maybe do a bit of research once in a while. NYC and LA are still not reporting all their crime. These are pretty significant sized cities.



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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #20 on: Today at 10:57:15 AM »

Actually, that fact has been published. But don't let that change your mind.

No, the DoJ does not have someone actually reviewing every court docket in the U.S. The DoJ actually depends upon the local and state agencies and courts to report their own crime statistics.

Hell, it's a proven fact that even federal government entities do not report to each other. There have been dozens of reported cases of federal government agencies failing to report offenses and adjudications to the proper agencies in order to prevent people who shouldn't have access to firearms from passing a federal background check.

But hey, you keep denying facts, and screaming about people posting politics, it's what you do, we wouldn't know you otherwise.

Nonsense. They are tallied automatically. You do not kniw what you’re talking about. You are 100% political talking points. You prove nothing
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #21 on: Today at 10:57:54 AM »
Not true. Thats a claim, not fact. Its a form of denial. If you make this claim then back it up with what proves it. You also were in denial about TX AC problems that were easily dispelled.

Court dockets are public , they do not have to be “reported” its open access. To not report it on record would be a crime, coverup. Which means you have to coverup a murder for it not to be there.

Unless you point out how thats done its just an erroneous comment, which is purely political. And thats how you slip into political darkness.

Denial is a helluva drug. You have this habit with anything TX. You are prone to conspiracies


https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs

https://www.nssf.org/articles/america-has-a-crime-reporting-problem/

https://www.crimeinamerica.net/millions-of-crimes-are-not-included-in-fbi-yearly-reports/


Yeah, it seems that reporting crime statistics to the FBI is STRICTLY VOLUNTARY


Yeah, even NPR says the data is incomplete: https://www.npr.org/2022/10/05/1127047811/the-fbis-new-crime-report-is-in-but-its-incomplete



Yeah, denial is a problem, but only for some.


We'll just wait and see how long it takes for this to get locked. Maybe someone can get me muted, too.
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #22 on: Today at 10:59:01 AM »
Nonsense. They are tallied automatically. You do not kniw what you’re talking about. You are 100% political talking points. You prove nothing


Guess again. A simple Internet query vehemently disagrees with you. Even using leftist sources.
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #23 on: Today at 10:59:30 AM »
Who is in denial? Maybe do a bit of research once in a while. NYC and LA are still not reporting all their crime. These are pretty significant sized cities.

You are, you gave
not the slightest clue what you are talking about, zero
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« Reply #24 on: Today at 11:02:20 AM »

Guess again. A simple Internet query vehemently disagrees with you. Even using leftist sources.

Show it or shut it? You back your own words. You gave no clue wtf you are talking about

You oist a politucal source and you are eaten up with bs. I spent 8 yrs around the court system
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #25 on: Today at 11:02:58 AM »
You are, you gave
not the slightest clue what you are talking about, zero


Actually, AKIron is absolutely correct, and you are utterly mistaken.

But we won't wait for you to admit it, or have the decency to apologize, we know you are in fact, incapable.
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #26 on: Today at 11:04:02 AM »

Guess again. A simple Internet query vehemently disagrees with you. Even using leftist sources.

Some people are completely oblivious that they live in a bubble and refuse to consider otherwise.
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #27 on: Today at 11:04:50 AM »
Show it or shut it? You back your own words. You gave no clue wtf you are talking about

You oist a politucal source and you are eaten up with bs. I spent 8 yrs around the court system

I posted four articles, including one from NPR, hardly right leaning. I didn't even search hard, that's four from the first page of a simple query.

Thanks for proving my point.
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« Reply #28 on: Today at 11:07:14 AM »
i’m not going to debate with willful ignorance.

You suffer from knowing nothing
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Re: Open Carry
« Reply #29 on: Today at 11:07:47 AM »
The bottom line of all of this is to have our streets safe with no need to carry a gun. 

We could have a bump up in our economy if we built more prisons.