Open Carry

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

We aren't Great Britain or some European country that is the size of one or two of our states...

Way too many weapons in circulation here to do much more than try to manage the issue by cost manipulation..

Making it too expensive for some will keep some away but would not affect those with guns that are causing issues with them now..

Strange how some think additional laws will work when the ones out there now are not followed by the criminals nor enforced by the problem judges now..

Eagler

Laws do not prevent murder. Firearms laws do not prevent crimes committed with firearms.

Firearms are not the source of crime, they're one of many tools used in the commission of crimes.

Disarming law abiding citizens in any manner will not prevent criminals from committing crimes in any number of manners, it will merely render law abiding citizens more defenseless.

There are 28,000 +/- local state and federal firearms laws, regulations, and restrictions on the books. Many of them are not even enforced, even by those demanding more of same.

There is no reason to think that any further legislation or regulation will reduce the misuse of firearms.

[Busher]

Laws do not prevent murder. Firearms laws do not prevent crimes committed with firearms.

Firearms are not the source of crime, they're one of many tools used in the commission of crimes.

Disarming law abiding citizens in any manner will not prevent criminals from committing crimes in any number of manners, it will merely render law abiding citizens more defenseless.

There are 28,000 +/- local state and federal firearms laws, regulations, and restrictions on the books. Many of them are not even enforced, even by those demanding more of same.

There is no reason to think that any further legislation or regulation will reduce the misuse of firearms.

You define the issue here quite eloquently. So now with the division as widespread as it is, can you offer a solution?

[Eagler]

You define the issue here quite eloquently. So now with the division as widespread as it is, can you offer a solution?

Valium in place of fluoride in the water systems of specific neighborhoods..

Eagler

[Meatwad]

Those that are the most vocal about gun control go eerily silent when one of their own commit the crime

[Busher]

Valium in place of fluoride in the water systems of specific neighborhoods..

Eagler

Cute but not likely a solution.

[hazmatt]

Cute but not likely a solution.

Thorazine?

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

You define the issue here quite eloquently. So now with the division as widespread as it is, can you offer a solution?

The solution was put in place when the 2nd Amendment was ratified as part of the Bill of Rights. No other solution is required.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Those that are the most vocal about gun control go eerily silent when one of their own commit the crime

Of course.

[AKIron]

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-John Adams

[Busher]

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-John Adams

"It will always remain one of democracy's best jokes that it provided its deadly enemies with the means by which it was destroyed."

-Joseph Goebbels

[Oldman731]

"It will always remain one of democracy's best jokes that it provided its deadly enemies with the means by which it was destroyed."

-Joseph Goebbels

Heh.  And look what happened to him!

- oldman

[Eagler]

Heh.  And look what happened to him!

- oldman

Doesn't mean he wasn't correct...nothing to do with guns, the ballot box will be the weapon..

We are doing just that..see the current attempt to rebalance being now described as extreme..

Eagler

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

"It will always remain one of democracy's best jokes that it provided its deadly enemies with the means by which it was destroyed."

-Joseph Goebbels

Hence, the Founding Fathers did NOT create a "democracy", the word appears nowhere in the Founding Documents, because the Founding Fathers universally despised democracy as mob rule, and a path to national suicide.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Doesn't mean he wasn't correct...nothing to do with guns, the ballot box will be the weapon..

We are doing just that..see the current attempt to rebalance being now described as extreme..

Eagler

There is a reason that certain groups scream "our democracy is in peril!", when we have never had a democracy. Note those same people cry about the Electoral College. They seek to change the Republic to a democracy, in order to create mob rule, to force their will upon the rest.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

-John Adams

Wise words, from the man universally regarded as the Father/author of the document in question. Written to a militia, in fact, as the Republic didn't have a standing army.


It should be noted that, as the nation suffers moral decay, and becomes secular, It also struggles and suffers in most every area, and the government continually grows in power. As the government grows, the individual, and his liberty become smaller.