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Offline AKKuya

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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #225 on: Today at 05:53:11 PM »
I support a Congressional Declaration of War on the Cartels.

How would other sovereign nations react to American forces invading their countries to wipe out the cartels?

A destabilizing situation would occur.  Should Congress also be ready to take possession of these countries as new U.S. territories for eventual statehood?

The United Mexican States has 31 individual states.  Central American countries, South American countries, and Caribbean countries would add a lot of new stars to the flag.

Europe, Asia, and Africa would be in uproar over American expansion.  They would be thinking their next.

2 options.  1) Leave it alone.   2) Go all the way, no holds barred.

Immigration would eventually be nullified with 50 more states to the union.

A scenario that could happen.
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #226 on: Today at 06:35:33 PM »
Attempting to wipe out cartels would be about as successful as Vietnam was.
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #227 on: Today at 07:01:53 PM »

Possibly.

How about a Congressional Declaration of War?

Was this a problem for you as well?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki

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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #228 on: Today at 07:33:12 PM »
Was this a problem for you as well?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki

I don't know enough about that case to comment.  I'm generally not a fan of the gov killing American citizens without due process unless they are presenting a clear and immediate threat to the safety of Americans.  But every incident like that should always go through Congressional review.  There should be some splainin.  It is Congress' JOB to check an Executive trying to push his bounds. 


You guys do realize the more imperial powers you try to lay on your guy, gets handed to the other side later, right?  Be careful what you wish for.
 
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #229 on: Today at 07:49:08 PM »
I think ALL presidents should have way less power, not more.

So we hand things over to career politicians?  I hear ya, but in today's political climate, I'd rather trust this president than most of those career politicians (who we ALL squeak about) who illegally tried to oust a presidential candidate, and later the POTUS.  Also, how much money has Trump lost since '20 compared to the money made by career politicians in DC?  If this was a business decision by Trump to run for president, it was a terrible one.  Hard to overlook those facts, especially if you agree with most of his policies and his vision for America. 
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #230 on: Today at 08:12:04 PM »
I don't know enough about that case to comment.  I'm generally not a fan of the gov killing American citizens without due process unless they are presenting a clear and immediate threat to the safety of Americans.  But every incident like that should always go through Congressional review.  There should be some splainin.  It is Congress' JOB to check an Executive trying to push his bounds. 


You guys do realize the more imperial powers you try to lay on your guy, gets handed to the other side later, right?  Be careful what you wish for.
 
I think ALL presidents should have way less power, not more.

That is because the congress as a whole has gave up a bunch of it's power so they can go... dont look at us we didnt do it. Thats why you have these alphabet agencies basically writing law.

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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #231 on: Today at 08:17:19 PM »
I support a Congressional Declaration of War on the Cartels.

How would other sovereign nations react to American forces invading their countries to wipe out the cartels?

A destabilizing situation would occur.  Should Congress also be ready to take possession of these countries as new U.S. territories for eventual statehood?

The United Mexican States has 31 individual states.  Central American countries, South American countries, and Caribbean countries would add a lot of new stars to the flag.

Europe, Asia, and Africa would be in uproar over American expansion.  They would be thinking their next.

2 options.  1) Leave it alone.   2) Go all the way, no holds barred.

Immigration would eventually be nullified with 50 more states to the union.

A scenario that could happen.

Well, maybe you’re all not useless. We seem to circle the group back every few pages or so. It’s like turning a CV.

You just described all the exact reasons why none of what you described will ever happen.

Just like here in America, other countries have laws and their laws matter.

No matter what.
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #232 on: Today at 08:30:45 PM »
You guys do realize the more imperial powers you try to lay on your guy, gets handed to the other side later, right?  Be careful what you wish for.

There is merit here.

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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #233 on: Today at 08:36:48 PM »
That is because the congress as a whole has gave up a bunch of it's power so they can go... dont look at us we didnt do it. Thats why you have these alphabet agencies basically writing law.

Exactly and  that is a problem.

The Congress should start reclaiming it share of the power balance.  That is what the founders intended.  They weren't meant to be the presidents rubber stamp.

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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #234 on: Today at 10:48:26 PM »
Mr. Smith left Washington long ago and they ain't ever letting him go back. It's a fight to the finish now.
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