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Offline Dadtallica

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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #285 on: Yesterday at 01:46:29 PM »
Well at least we are not talking about the Epstein files.

….hey wait a minute.
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #286 on: Yesterday at 02:03:11 PM »
Well at least we are not talking about the Epstein files.

….hey wait a minute.

I would never bring up Epstein files on the bbs, that would just be rude.
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #287 on: Yesterday at 02:17:07 PM »
Is that supposed to mean something?
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #288 on: Yesterday at 02:19:25 PM »
So where is the Army supposed to defend?

First, blowing up boats is not a defensive act in my opinion.  If Coast Guard had tried to board them according to our law and were fired up, light them up.

Second, I'm not comfortable with the military being use to enforce Congressional law.  That is a Law Enforcement role.

Third, is your argument that that US military has the right to assassinate any individual, of any nationality, located in any other country or international waters, based on the idea that they MIGHT eventually cross our border illegally...someday? 

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Blowing up a boat in international waters is generally illegal and violates international law, with narrow exceptions for self-defense during an active armed conflict.

Were these boats firing on US forces?  Had they fired on Coast Guard? 






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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #289 on: Yesterday at 02:30:31 PM »


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The 1973 War Powers Act sets a 60-day time limit for military actions in hostilities without a formal declaration of war or specific authorization from Congress.

First boat blown up on 2 Sept.

Go to Congress.  Get your authorization. 

He controls both the House and Senate, let them put their names on it.

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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #290 on: Yesterday at 02:32:53 PM »
Law enforcement enforces our laws within our borders. Our military does in fact have the responsibility to repel foreign invaders. Not law enforcement. If you'll recall the military oath you swore it was to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #291 on: Yesterday at 02:33:08 PM »

First boat blown up on 2 Sept.

Go to Congress.  Get your authorization. 

He controls both the House and Senate, let them put their names on it.
Why would the administration start doing things the Constitutional way now?

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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #292 on: Yesterday at 02:38:34 PM »
AI speak...

"BRICS influences South America by fostering economic cooperation, creating an alternative to Western-dominated institutions like the IMF and World Bank, and providing a platform for developing nations to gain geopolitical leverage. Brazil is a key player, but countries like Bolivia and Argentina have also sought to join, though this can lead to tensions with the United States due to geopolitical alignments with China and Russia. This influence is seen through increased trade and investment, and the creation of new financial institutions like the New Development Bank."

Just as much if not more about this as it is smuggled drugs imo..

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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #293 on: Yesterday at 02:39:16 PM »
If you want to get technical does every invasion attempt reset the 60 day War Powers Act clause? This action is not against a nation but rather against individuals attempting to invade our land and poison our citizens.
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #294 on: Yesterday at 02:41:08 PM »
Why would the administration start doing things the Constitutional way now?

In two floor votes he could be out on his butt working as Walmart Greeter.
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The whole thing could be over in less than a week.

The problem isn't that the founders didn't leave the tools for Congress to resist a King.  The problem is the character of the men holding those tools.

The problem is too many people in this country today, secretly really want a Putin in charge.  They just want THEIR Putin, not the other teams.


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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #295 on: Yesterday at 02:46:08 PM »
The USS Gerald Ford and her battle group are heading to these waters now.
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #296 on: Yesterday at 02:48:12 PM »
If you want to get technical does every invasion attempt reset the 60 day War Powers Act clause? This action is not against a nation but rather against individuals attempting to invade our land and poison our citizens.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

I see no room for consensus.

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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #297 on: Yesterday at 02:50:04 PM »
There is precedent for the US military to defend against foreign invaders within our borders. That's really not debatable.
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #298 on: Yesterday at 03:00:57 PM »
The only accomplishment of this congress is taking money from our pockets to theirs. And you bite every shinny hook defections to ignore it.

You will eat dirt right along with us, the shock will be more harsh.

You realize we passed the tax cuts again right (wouldn't have happened under your leaders) and interest rates have been lowered. Thus continuing to save us money and not giving it away to the debt. So im not sure what you mean?
 
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Re: Declaration of war on drug lords..
« Reply #299 on: Yesterday at 03:08:13 PM »
I dont remember the CIA being involved with drug and human trafficking being in the constitution either. I dont remember it saying we can flood any city with third worlders whenever we want without a vote either  :rolleyes:
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