Clarity in a post

[Dadtallica]

I hope you are not suggesting that DEI had anything to do with a black man flying a jet for an airline.

I flew for 42 years with all races, genders, religions etc. and I take your support of Kirk's remarks quite personally. It takes years of training to get your first seat in an airline jet... and unlike most other so-called professionals, airline pilots have to demonstrate their continued qualifications at least 4 times per year.

Anyone who wants to question the qualifications of the pilots should be politely but firmly invited to take another airline... I know I would have.

Ya but under what context were you hired?????? You need to know!!!

[Busher]

Ya but under what context were you hired?????? You need to know!!!

I have no idea what you're asking. I need to know what?

[Dadtallica]

I have no idea what you're asking. I need to know what?

Was a call back to the nonsense iron posted. I loved your response!

[Busher]

Was a call back to the nonsense iron posted. I loved your response!

Oh got it... thanks!

[AKIron]

I hope you are not suggesting that DEI had anything to do with a black man flying a jet for an airline.

I flew for 42 years with all races, genders, religions etc. and I take your support of Kirk's remarks quite personally. It takes years of training to get your first seat in an airline jet... and unlike most other so-called professionals, airline pilots have to demonstrate their continued qualifications at least 4 times per year.

Anyone who wants to question the qualifications of the pilots should be politely but firmly invited to take another airline... I know I would have.

Here's the thing. Unlike you, the vast majority of people are not airline pilots. However, they do know that race based hiring often puts people less qualified in various jobs. Sometimes where they do not belong. Kirk was denouncing this practice which can cause doubt about qualifications. Seems pretty clear to me what he was saying and I agree. It is not only an unfair practice but illegal. It will only be stopped when we the people say no more.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

I hope you are not suggesting that DEI had anything to do with a black man flying a jet for an airline.

I flew for 42 years with all races, genders, religions etc. and I take your support of Kirk's remarks quite personally. It takes years of training to get your first seat in an airline jet... and unlike most other so-called professionals, airline pilots have to demonstrate their continued qualifications at least 4 times per year.

Anyone who wants to question the qualifications of the pilots should be politely but firmly invited to take another airline... I know I would have.

If you're claiming there's no such thing as an incompetent or unqualified airline pilot, thousands of dead people and dozens of NTSB reports prove otherwise.

If you're claiming that you can hire 50% or more of your pilots from less than 15% of the population and not lower your standards, simple math proves you wrong.

[LCADolby]

The aftermath of yet another doomed Animl thread..

Still not earned that PNG yet?

I'm starting to think he's got photo's of HiTech in ladies attire and holding him to ransom..

 

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Whether or not you like him is irrelevant to whether or not he said terrible things. I didn’t say the awful things he did. Unless of course you agree with these statements? Do you?

I literally said he shouldn’t have been murdered. I don’t care what other people say. You’re more fragile than we thought I guess.

lol simulation loading… what he said has nothing to do with the context you just described. Those were just two of the litany of awfulness that he vomited. I’m pretty sure you’re too old to be doing these kind of gymnastics in your head.

I guess it would have been ok if he was standing in 5th avenue instead of a chair on a stage.

Actually, that is directly from the discussion where he said that. And if you believe that you can hire 50% of your pilots from 13% of the population, and get the same quality that you get hiring from over 50% of the population, then you quite literally ignore math. And yeah, considering the pilot is the main factor in deciding whether or not you survive the flight, I want my pilot to be in the top 5% of all applicants, regardless of race or sex, neither of which I want to be considered at all.

You can choose to ignore facts, logic, reason, math, and physics. The consequences of ignoring them will find you eventually.

Charlie Kirk had civil discourse with, and gave a microphone to, anyone willing to discuss anything with him, despite many of them yelling, screaming, cursing, and threatening him.

Never once did he call for any harm to come to anyone who disagreed with him. The same cannot be said for many who did disagree with him. It's truly sad that most people who speak ill of him have to take things out of context, alter quotes, or outright lie about things he said. Sadder still is that most of them are utterly oblivious to what he actually said.

If you can't quote the full conversation, in full context, then you're intellectually and morally dishonest, and there's absolutely no point in discussing anything with you.

[Busher]

Actually, that is directly from the discussion where he said that. And if you believe that you can hire 50% of your pilots from 13% of the population, and get the same quality that you get hiring from over 50% of the population, then you quite literally ignore math. And yeah, considering the pilot is the main factor in deciding whether or not you survive the flight, I want my pilot to be in the top 5% of all applicants, regardless of race or sex, neither of which I want to be considered at all.

You are clearly a moronic racist of epic proportion.

First, it's well known that people are safer in an airliner that anywhere else on the globe. Second, none of us are your pilot... you are a passenger on his airplane. Airline pilots don't use terms like better or best... the term is competent for all,  because ALL have to achieve the standard. That standard is only attained through dedication, study and hard work. Not through some racist's belief that he can see who should be wearing the nice blue and gold suit.
 

[Meatwad]

Dei hires do not mean safety when they are not hired for their skills. Look at the dc police chief. Dei hire that was clueless about her job. But go ahead and play the race card because you have nothing else to go on.

[AKIron]

You are clearly a moronic racist of epic proportion.

First, it's well known that people are safer in an airliner that anywhere else on the globe. Second, none of us are your pilot... you are a passenger on his airplane. Airline pilots don't use terms like better or best... the term is competent for all,  because ALL have to achieve the standard. That standard is only attained through dedication, study and hard work. Not through some racist's belief that he can see who should be wearing the nice blue and gold suit.

Newsflash: Airline pilots are employees who would not have a job serving the public if the public refused to fly on "your" airplane. You refuse to see that perception of your qualifications is critical to you keeping that job. When someone is hired because of their race then qualifications are rightly questionable.

[AKIron]

This discussion will soon be moot anyhow when AI takes over the controls and the scopes. The skies will be safer then for all of us.

[Busher]

This discussion will soon be moot anyhow when AI takes over the controls and the scopes. The skies will be safer then for all of us.

"perception of your qualifications is critical to you keeping that job"

You too are a moron... who's perception?  It's simple, "qualified" is not subjective.

As to "soon be moot anyhow when AI takes over the controls and the scopes." Soon? I think not. The modern flightdeck has the most amazing automation - tools I could not even have imagined when I did my first solo in 1964. But I am not going to try to list the number of times airplanes and passengers have been saved by the ingenuity of human pilots. I am not talking about checklist failures, the typical checkride items like an engine failure after v1 or a rapid depressurization. I am talking about the failures that no-one ever anticipated. One example, do you really believe that a machine could have decided that the Hudson river was the only choice?  I believe that "thinking outside the box" is a long way from a machine handling the jet. But it will happen.

[AKIron]

"perception of your qualifications is critical to you keeping that job"

You too are a moron... who's perception?  It's simple, "qualified" is not subjective.

As to "soon be moot anyhow when AI takes over the controls and the scopes." Soon? I think not. The modern flightdeck has the most amazing automation - tools I could not even have imagined when I did my first solo in 1964. But I am not going to try to list the number of times airplanes and passengers have been saved by the ingenuity of human pilots. I am not talking about checklist failures, the typical checkride items like an engine failure after v1 or a rapid depressurization. I am talking about the failures that no-one ever anticipated. One example, do you really believe that a machine could have decided that the Hudson river was the only choice?  I believe that "thinking outside the box" is a long way from a machine handling the jet. But it will happen.

You are the one who seems devoid of understanding that when people are hired based on race rather than solely on qualifications people will rightly question those qualifications. The point being made clearly by Kirk is that. It doesn't matter what you think. It matters what the people you serve think.

And AI will be able to handle any situation as well or better than the best human pilot. Every time.

[Busher]

You are the one who seems devoid of understanding that when people are hired based on race rather than solely on qualifications people will rightly question those qualifications. The point being made clearly by Kirk is that. It doesn't matter what you think. It matters what the people you serve think.

And AI will be able to handle any situation as well or better than the best human pilot. Every time.

Clearly you know little about flying an airplane.