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Offline Animl-AW

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Swiss Fire
« on: January 02, 2026, 04:33:29 PM »
Report says acoustical foam panels were the cause.

Now I don't know what laws or OSHA type groups the Swiss have.

But those foams are combustible as hell if they are using what I think they are using.

Being OSHA certified and working with fire marshals and SS many times for them to sign off on the room..... experiments have been done on road cases, which contain similar foam.

They are not to be allowed in the room and closed, if they are empty they must be removed, if they are not empty they must be left open. IF a fire starts and those cases reach a flash point and are closed, they can explode. That's how combustible those foams are.

Not only does it burn easily, it burns at a very high temp and will drip on fire like a garden hose,.. causing more harm and spreading fire faster.

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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2026, 04:49:22 PM »
I havent looked into yet.. so many damn things going on. However first thing that came through was that it was an explosion. I found that to be interesting. After hearing the death count. Its truely another tragic happening..
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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2026, 06:31:24 PM »
I havent looked into yet.. so many damn things going on. However first thing that came through was that it was an explosion. I found that to be interesting. After hearing the death count. Its truely another tragic happening..

Strangely, someone crack open a Champaign bottle, not sure how that started it, unless the cork struck and incandescent light and it flamed. Did not see the whole thing. A hot bulb popping could cause what someone thought was a minor explosion. I mean, define explosion. <shrug>
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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2026, 08:26:10 AM »
Sparklers on the champagne bottles cause it ..

Someone lifted someone who was holding a lit bottle who then got to close to the ceiling..

Heard gas tanks exploded also..maybe NG for heat...

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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2026, 09:01:42 AM »
Tragic.
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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2026, 10:05:42 AM »
Obviously I’m talking blind. Not even sure exactly what kind of acoustic tiles or was it a drop ceiling.which is very flammable, but not like the foam type which contains pockets of air that feeds it.

The hot spot of a sparkler, or cigarette is about 2,000 degrees

How or why they couldn’t get out baffles me, they broke out huge windows. However, open air flowing in like adding oxygen to a cutting torch.

Sounds like they may have used what I feared. An inspection, how? You can’t tell just by loling at it. Who and how was it inspected. I’ve seen fire marshals blow some things off, not ofyen, but humans get lazy. Did they look at the tags or paper info on it to certify it? Who signed off on it is in big trouble if they failed. Why I always went through proper steps and didn’t sign off on anything. Thats not my job.

Insanely sad story. I wouldn’t want to listen to that sound recording.

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Following a tragic fire at a Swiss ski resort bar, experts identified the likely cause as flammable acoustic panels (possibly foam or fiber) that spread fire rapidly, suggesting the panels lacked proper fireproofing or were the wrong type, leading to a flashover; the specific "Swiss fire" type refers to these non-fire-rated acoustic materials that ignite easily, contrasting with certified fire-resistant panels made by companies like Impact Acoustic or Autex that use treated polyester fiber.

What Went Wrong (Based on Recent Reports)
Material: The panels were reportedly made of material that burns quickly and can burst into flames, spreading fire extremely fast, according to a Swiss fire expert.

Installation: Being mounted horizontally likely worsened the spread of fire.

Outcome: This led to a flashover, where the entire room rapidly ignited, causing significant casualties.

Types of Fire-Resistant Alternatives
Manufacturers offer panels that are specifically designed to meet stringent fire safety standards, unlike the materials implicated in the fire:
Polyester Fiber (PET): Many quality acoustic panels are made from recycled polyester fibers, often treated or inherently fire-resistant, like those from Impact Acoustic (ARCHISONIC® Felt) or Autex (3D Tiles).

Mineral Wool or Fiberglass: These core materials offer excellent fire resistance (non-combustible) and are often faced with decorative fabric.

Foam (with caution): While some acoustic foams are designed for fire safety (often treated), many common types are highly flammable and should be avoided in public spaces.

Key Takeaway: The "Swiss fire" incident highlights the critical importance of choosing acoustic tiles with certified, high fire-safety ratings (like Class A or B) and avoiding non-certified or flammable materials, especially in commercial and public venues.
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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2026, 10:18:23 AM »
Reminds me of the Station nightclub fire back in 03.

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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2026, 10:25:10 AM »
A concert venue I worked for 10 yrs was a theater. Star Plaza Theater. It had curtains. Before LED lights the old style got very hot. Someone placed it next to the curtains that were suppose to be treated, but they hadn’t been in a log time. They caught fire mid show. Everyone got out and none were hurt, but hanging horizontal it moved quick. It was put out before it hit the structure. But it could have been a catastrophe with 3,400 in the room. Its on YT somewhere.

Another theater I worked in a few times the Iroquois in Chicago at the time renamed to the Oriental.

Many stories about ghost seen in it. Its where the law of yelling fire and locked doors became a law.

I stood in the spot in the alley where a pile of bodies built up by people jumping and falling to their death on top of bodies who fell to their death. The pile of bodies was huge. Creepy ars feeling standing there. Lots of ghost stories by my co-workers who work there all the time.

https://www.whsv.com/2025/12/30/this-day-history-countrys-deadliest-fire-breaks-out-chicago-theater/?outputType=amp
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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2026, 08:52:15 PM »
Many stories about ghost seen in it. Its where the law of yelling fire and locked doors became a law.https://www.whsv.com/2025/12/30/this-day-history-countrys-deadliest-fire-breaks-out-chicago-theater/?outputType=amp

Out of all of that, you'd also think that pulling fire alarms for no reason would be against the law, too.   
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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2026, 10:00:43 PM »
It may depend on state l didn't look that far, I just picked one

(a) Offense.--It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to wantonly and willfully give or cause to be given, or to advise, counsel, or aid and abet anyone in giving, a false alarm of fire, or to break the glass key protector, or to pull the slide, arm, or lever of any station or signal box of any fire-alarm system, except in case of fire, or willfully misuse or damage a portable fire extinguisher, or in any way to willfully interfere with, damage, deface, molest, or injure any part or portion of any fire-alarm, fire-detection, smoke-detection or fire-extinguishing system.

(b) Penalty.--Any person who willfully interferes with, damages, defaces, molests, or injures any part or portion of a fire-alarm, fire-detection, smoke-detection, or fire-extinguishing system in a prison or local confinement facility is guilty of a Class H felony. Any person who commits any other violation of this section is guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor. For purposes of this subsection, the term “local confinement facility” means a county or city jail, a local lockup, or a detention facility for adults operated by a local government.
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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2026, 10:30:16 PM »
It may depend on state l didn't look that far, I just picked one

(a) Offense.--It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to wantonly and willfully give or cause to be given, or to advise, counsel, or aid and abet anyone in giving, a false alarm of fire, or to break the glass key protector, or to pull the slide, arm, or lever of any station or signal box of any fire-alarm system, except in case of fire, or willfully misuse or damage a portable fire extinguisher, or in any way to willfully interfere with, damage, deface, molest, or injure any part or portion of any fire-alarm, fire-detection, smoke-detection or fire-extinguishing system.

(b) Penalty.--Any person who willfully interferes with, damages, defaces, molests, or injures any part or portion of a fire-alarm, fire-detection, smoke-detection, or fire-extinguishing system in a prison or local confinement facility is guilty of a Class H felony. Any person who commits any other violation of this section is guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor. For purposes of this subsection, the term “local confinement facility” means a county or city jail, a local lockup, or a detention facility for adults operated by a local government.
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Good thing that it's not a federal offense, right?   
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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2026, 08:17:27 AM »
Reminds me of the Station nightclub fire back in 03.

The Station nightclub fire video lives rent free in my head.  It's the reason why I always make note of exits when I am in an unfamiliar bar/restaurant/venue.

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Re: Swiss Fire
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2026, 01:25:54 PM »
Good thing that it's not a federal offense, right?

Well, consider how many high school student would still be in jail or detention center. Pretty much the most common.
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