Getting a lil tired of the late war easy modes in the MA

[Animl-AW]

The ganging and vulching is still here - just as it was back in the day!  What I've noticed is that the vulchers tend to be new faces, which I think is a good thing.  Hey, they don't yet know that they're dweebs, and we can use the new blood.

- oldman

They seriously do not get it. I have doubts they ever will. Rinse and repeat. Plugged ears.

Then you have the former player chunky vomit opportunist.

Always psssin and moaning on the front page because the game wasn’t made for one person’s wishes [insert name]

The game is fine, some players have entitlement issues.

All these whinny threads.
About as inviting as a plugged toilet.

Noted pattern: 109 pilets always complain about other planes, yet refuse to fly anything else.

[hazmatt]

The ganging and vulching is still here - just as it was back in the day!  What I've noticed is that the vulchers tend to be new faces, which I think is a good thing.  Hey, they don't yet know that they're dweebs, and we can use the new blood.

- oldman

New names as in new players? That would be exciting. I hope it's not new names for old players being sneaky. lol

[Eagler]

They seriously do not get it. I have doubts they ever will. Rinse and repeat. Plugged ears.

Then you have the former player chunky vomit opportunist.

Always psssin and moaning on the front page because the game wasn’t made for one person’s wishes [insert name]

The game is fine, some players have entitlement issues.

All these whinny threads.
About as inviting as a plugged toilet.

Noted pattern: 109 pilets always complain about other planes, yet refuse to fly anything else.

I fly many planes, just get most kills in a 109g2 as I fly it most..

Anytime you want to go to the dueling arena just let me know...

You pick any plane you want 

Eagler

[Animl-AW]

I fly many planes, just get most kills in a 109g2 as I fly it most..

Anytime you want to go to the dueling arena just let me know...

You pick any plane you want 

Eagler

Ya, I don’t do DA. I never profess to be the pilet I once was, I have nothing to prove. Most times I tend to place myself in a 3-1 situation being a solo de-acker for the guys I fly with. It just goes with the territory. I don’t even look at my scoring.

It is true though, it always seems to be a 109 pilot, which btw the 109 was a monster in WWII. Its kind of an uber plane itself.

Its just a pattern I picked up on.

I refer back to Oldmans statement.

A less skilled pilot will normally choose a plane that buffers that, like new players. Yall don’t leave room for that.

Game dying spewings are repetitive debbie downers. They’ve been saying the game will die within a year for 15 yrs. Think about that.
If its so bad why do they fly every night?

The game has numbers issues because these projectile vomit players keep telling everyone its dying. Sometimes I wish it would die just to watch them swallow their own vomit. “ you caused it, now choke it down”

Edit: This is a 8 time repeat thread hoping for different results, we all know what that is

[DmonSlyr]

They seriously do not get it. I have doubts they ever will. Rinse and repeat. Plugged ears.

Then you have the former player chunky vomit opportunist.

Always psssin and moaning on the front page because the game wasn’t made for one person’s wishes [insert name]

The game is fine, some players have entitlement issues.

All these whinny threads.
About as inviting as a plugged toilet.

Noted pattern: 109 pilets always complain about other planes, yet refuse to fly anything else.

With all due respect sir, I dont think you are really understand this issue and how its effecting players. Just look at Socktigs post. The guy comes back and its endless ganging by yak3s and tempest. Almost every player whose came back last maybe a month and realizes how difficult this is to constantly deal with the same tactics over and over again and they just leave because its not really fun for them. Weve lost 80 players in the last year or so. The gameplay is what makes the game play. If everyone is in tempest to fight the tempest, its just not that fun, and the radar is absolutely causing the gang and dogpile phenomenon. When i log in at 6pm and there is no fight on my side or no defense by my team being ganged and I feel it will just be a gang show by yaks, there is really no reason for me to take off half the time so I log and go play something a bit quicker so im not wasting 30 minutes or my hour to play twittling my thumbs getting alt, only to get ganged by easy moders.

[Animl-AW]

With all due respect sir, I dont think you are really understand this issue and how its effecting players. Just look at Socktigs post. The guy comes back and its endless ganging by yak3s and tempest. Almost every player whose came back last maybe a month and realizes how difficult this is to constantly deal with the same tactics over and over again and they just leave because its not really fun for them. Weve lost 80 players in the last year or so. The gameplay is what makes the game play. If everyone is in tempest to fight the tempest, its just not that fun, and the radar is absolutely causing the gang and dogpile phenomenon. When i log in at 6pm and there is no fight on my side or no defense by my team being ganged and I feel it will just be a gang show by yaks, there is really no reason for me to take off half the time so I log and go play something a bit quicker so im not wasting 30 minutes or my hour to play twittling my thumbs getting alt, only to get ganged by easy moders.

I DO get it, buddy.
I experience the same. We all do.
But, plane set is not going to, nor should it change.

What you’re looking for exist in events. The MA is truly just for practice. New guys and return players need a place to get their chops in order.

I use myself as example. After 10 yrs away, I knew how to fly, yet truly felt like a newbie, and still kinda do. I’m not going to get 30 yrs experience back in one yr of nightly flying. I need something as leverage to not die every 5 minutes against polished vets.

I do my real best flying in scenarios. I’m just toying around in the MA. I just don’t take it seriously. In my head its just practice and experimenting with ACM.

Oldman and others from days long past can probably back this up

Since early AW to current AH, not one thing has changed in the MAs. Same flying, same uber planes, same complaints. Its just not new. We’ve read these repeats for over 30 yrs. Everything here is repeats x10,000.  This is nothing new, including o’club/bigweek. Its been going on for decades. I read this thread 20 times in 1995.

May seem newish to yus, its old burnt hats to us. This is why we just roll with it. AH audience is different than AW. A lot of hyperbole and lacking appreciation.

If there are a lot if LAs, Yaks, Temps and Spits, flying anything less would be repeat suicide. What is hysterical to me is having 7 on my 6 with uber planes blowing all their ammo, then I turn on the last one in line. Thats fun for me, but it may be a fun sickness. Its just the MA

Right now, at least you have a game to complain about. The alternative will rattle you most

[CAV]

If everyone is in tempest to fight the tempest, its just not that fun, and the radar is absolutely causing the gang and dogpile phenomenon.

This... And the "names and lights thing" After a kill. Has turned gameplay Into a nightly frenzy of furballers trying to get their names and lights as many times as they can before they die. To the point That the combat simulation part of the game has fallen to the wayside. Way too many players now head to an enemy base, not to help take the base, but just to add to their kill count.

[Animl-AW]

This... And the "names and lights thing" After a kill. Has turned gameplay Into a nightly frenzy of furballers trying to get their names and lights as many times as they can before they die. To the point That the combat simulation part of the game has fallen to the wayside. Way too many players now head to an enemy base, not to help take the base, but just to add to their kill count.

Again, I see nothing new. Competition is very healthy for any game. You have the point monger crowd and he true simmer crowd. Everyone, well most, want to “be someone”. It’s human nature. Its part of what keeps them in game. Its the mix of different concepts in one place that clashes.

IMO

[Eagler]

It's not what they fly it is how they fly it...

cmex doesn't have to b&z his tempest as he can kill 90% t&Bing in it..

I t&b every the 109 I fly 95% of the time as I  enjoy that type of fight vs b&z staying high and fast..and I don't care if I don't land kills anymore...really don't care if I even win as I enjoy the fight either way if it's a good one and doesn't end getting picked..

Eagler

[DmonSlyr]

It might be "practice" for you, but this is WW2 simulation for other players who take it really seriously. So seriously they have to fly the easiest planes in the game every single sortie after flying for a decade... therefore literally no newby has even close to a chance. The MA is hard as heck for me now and ive been doing this for 2 decades at a top level. You know what I've noticed? Not a single player wants to reach out to learn ACM. Not a single player wants to learn counter ACM defense maneuvers. Not a single player reaches out and asked to practice ACM and actual tactics. All they want to do is get the kill.. and fly on without any respect for the guy on the other team and his time and effort trying to play the game. All they know how to do is fly high and fast and that is the most boring gameplay of all because they dont have to depend on actual knowledge of ACM to counter their mistakes. They can just immediately excel and squirm away. I am the king of the reversal because ive practiced it for years and years. I try to make the game fun for others by being lower and slower on purpose to give them sort of a chance but its like being ganged by 5 yaks at the same time kind defeats that purpose. I can fly high and fast in my temp and go 117-0 k/d like ive done before but what fun is that to other players and is that really making the game enjoyable for other players? No.

You guys are saying "its always been this way" well, look at the #s. For the last decade they've been slowly declining. Once the yak3 was introduced it was noticeably over modeled and it took years to make adjustments to it, if there ever was, and long time players knew this plane was crazy and yall just shrugged us off. Hell I even said the same thing about the spit16 and couldn't believe it wasn't perked. I still think it should be perked. Its a ridiculous turn fighter with crazy climb and roll rate with 2 hisapnoes... I dont really think you should be using "it's always been like this" as a good arguement because A. It hasn't because radar changes were made, the DA was taken away from us ans turned into Match play with a crap ton of issues ive complained about for years now... and B. When most of the fighters left. Because "screw the fighter guys" right, its opened the door for less actually fun engagements and more into the players left who take the easy way and gang one low G14 or spit9 on the deck whose already in a fight with 2 other guys....and they are both in late war super planes too.. I mean its just ridiculous. So if you think theres no changes that could be implemented to make the gameplay better than I think you are missing the point of why so many decided to try other flight sim games over AH now.

This... And the "names and lights thing" After a kill. Has turned gameplay Into a nightly frenzy of furballers trying to get their names and lights as many times as they can before they die. To the point That the combat simulation part of the game has fallen to the wayside. Way too many players now head to an enemy base, not to help take the base, but just to add to their kill count.

This 100%. I cannot stand the kill rewards. That caused a lot of players to leave also... no one asked for that.

It's not what they fly it is how they fly it...

cmex doesn't have to b&z his tempest as he can kill 90% t&Bing in it..

I t&b every the 109 I fly 95% of the time as I  enjoy that type of fight vs b&z staying high and fast..and I don't care if I don't land kills anymore...really don't care if I even win as I enjoy the fight either way if it's a good one and doesn't end getting picked..

Eagler

CMex is chasing players out of the game and hides behind his NIK 4 cannon spray monster with infinite E and him flying a tempest is horrible for the game with the amount of hours he plays. Sorry but im gonna call it out.

[Animl-AW]

It's not what they fly it is how they fly it...

cmex doesn't have to b&z his tempest as he can kill 90% t&Bing in it..

I t&b every the 109 I fly 95% of the time as I  enjoy that type of fight vs b&z staying high and fast..and I don't care if I don't land kills anymore...really don't care if I even win as I enjoy the fight either way if it's a good one and doesn't end getting picked..

Eagler

Ahh hah! You’re starting to “get it”.


You can and will not change how others fly, you may get angry fir 3.7 seconds, but when ya just roll with it you “get it”. Allowing others to be themselves, good or bad, keeps them in game. The best part is in a position to kill them. YKW was not unbeatable, I fell into the perfect situation and blew him out of the air. No one is invincible. A mistake is right around the corner.

I’ll bet you have more fun now.

[Animl-AW]

Cmex isn’t driving anyone away. He uses alt to his advantage. Would you not? Cmex is actially a nice guy.

Since I’ve been back there has only been one person who’s full intent was to ruin the game and he had some success.  He was a major number collapse from the 200 we built up.

I think you may be over thinking some things.

Sliding off subject
Stig kills me 90% of the time. He’s got my number. A D9 going up against a 47 is just not a good match.  Above 180 I have no flaps. He will get me in a TnB every time. He has full flaps and knows how to use them, 8-50s and usually alt on me. Plus after de-acking I’ve already got damage. He’s a good sport and so am I. We laugh about it every time.

Some in here like Eagler, Dad, and a cpl others we agree on almost nothing on bbs. But like Dad, he’s a good fight and a good sportsmen in the MA we always <S> thats what matters to me. Hang the ego at the door.

Eagler and Oldman constant <S> to all rivals has bred good sportsmanship in the MA. Its a LOT more fun than 2 yrs sgo.  They are just good examples for the game that is paid forward.

You’re gonna lose, many times it won’t be what you imagine or think it should be.  The match up will be out of the norm.

What your posts tell me is you have a deep passion for the game. You’re afraid something will ruin it. We have all been there. Its not new. Its also not something to fear. Trust me, its been this way for a very long time.

What dies hurt numbers are debbie downer habitual repeat on general. That is truly your biggest enemy.

Some here are trying to control basic human nature with wack-a-mole settings. You can’t kill a game faster. He slightest tweak can cause major disruption. Don’t belittle HT, he knows this well. Better than we do. He reads graphs, we don’t. And many things, out of wisdom, will not discuss everything with you. He gets bashed more than praise for providing it in the first place. He took a lot of bashing during very bad days of his life. I can relate.

Former players are that for a reason, they think you should give them verification for their decision and want you to think like them. Hate HT, hate mods, the game will die tomorrow.
BS. If they are here to disrupt numbers, run them out.

[Dadtallica]

I focused on the G14 this past tour. Pretty much flew it exclusively all month.

I’m hooked! I may never fly another plane.

Has my favorite skin too. The all black.

[hazmatt]

I focused on the G14 this past tour. Pretty much flew it exclusively all month.

I’m hooked! I may never fly another plane.

Has my favorite skin too. The all black.

I always though the G14 was underrated. It's pretty fast and can carry tators!

[Eagler]

I focused on the G14 this past tour. Pretty much flew it exclusively all month.

I’m hooked! I may never fly another plane.

Has my favorite skin too. The all black.

With or without gonds? 20mm or 30mm?

I find the g2 a better plane than the g14..I usually have gonds and 3/4 fuel..

Eagler