$120 a barrel

[Eagler]

I wonder what Putin is going to do with his 10 billion dollar gift-card.

You think he will use it for humanitarian relief around the world?

Makes as much sense as starting the conflict in the 1st place for the bs reasons given..

Eagler

[Lazerr]

Makes as much sense as starting the conflict in the 1st place for the bs reasons given..

Eagler

I think this kind of needed to happen.  Do i think its going to fix the problem long term, probably not.

I wish there was a plan in place to erase these radicals for good, but most of them are hiding.  I would support  boots on the ground from joint forces if it was likely to erase these savages.  Not sure if there is Intel there support that action. If it was possible to pull it off, it would be a huge accomplishment for peace in that region.

Did they need to be cut down a limb or two in terms of offensive capabilities, wrapped with bad intent.. yes.

The consequences of ignoring these threats could and likely would be much greater to us, and many others than high gas prices had we let it slide much longer.

Neither situation is ideal..  but we have to live with it at this point, and hope for the best outcome possible.

[AKIron]

47 years overdue.

[Animl-AW]

The problem is not that something had to be done. It’s the lack of foresight and planning that they went after it like a chainsaw instead of a scalpel.

There was no regime change
The people don’t have the weapons to take it back
And no end game makes it a mess.
Our firmer insulted allies will only help when it affects them durectly, they want to help this admin zero..
Telling us nit to believe what we see, hear and experience makes it a puddle of vomit.
And thats based on just what we know now.

Thinking this would not cause oil issues is amateur at best.

Just the first days cost 11 billion and hurt weapon stock and still same regime that still owns 11 kilograms of nuke grade

Iran live in they didn’t lose because they survived.

I think when 10 yrs from now historians may view he implementation was very short sighted.

In the end we only bought time, not much was actually accomplished, yet

[Lazerr]

The problem is not that something had to be done. It’s the lack of foresight and planning that they went after it like a chainsaw instead of a scalpel.

There was no regime change
The people don’t have the weapons to take it back
And no end game makes it a mess.
Our firmer insulted allies will only help when it affects them durectly, they want to help this admin zero..
Telling us nit to believe what we see, hear and experience makes it a puddle of vomit.
And thats based on just what we know now.

Thinking this would not cause oil issues is amateur at best.

Just the first days cost 11 billion and hurt weapon stock and still same regime that still owns 11 kilograms of nuke grade

Iran live in they didn’t lose because they survived.

I think when 10 yrs from now historians may view he implementation was very short sighted.

In the end we only bought time, not much was actually accomplished, yet

I think we need to make life tough for them, and they will fight for freedom.

It's a better alternative than what happened in Japan.

I hope it doesn't balloon in something bigger.

I think is was scalpel sharp the initial and subsequent strikes took out the people they did.

If you keep chopping these guys down, it will make it easier for peace to reign.

[CptTrips]

Except we are now funding Putin's SMO to the tune of 10 billion dollars.

I'm curious if this was part of the plan from the start.
Start a war, close the Straight, lift Russian sanctions.


It was either planned or events are moving beyond their control and this is a panicked reaction.

We are now paying for Putin's army.

Either one needs explaining.

[Animl-AW]

I think we need to make life tough for them, and they will fight for freedom.

It's a better alternative than what happened in Japan.

I hope it doesn't balloon in something bigger.

I think is was scalpel sharp the initial and subsequent strikes took out the people they did.

If you keep chopping these guys down, it will make it easier for peace to reign.

I don’t think this mindset in Iran can be shaped, they must be 86ed. There s no cure for religious cults. They will be who they are til the end.

It’s already bigger than planned. That’s the problem, no real plan, just “gut feeling” of a cognitive decent.that’s scary

[Animl-AW]

Except we are now funding Putin's SMO to the tune of 10 billion dollars.

I'm curious if this was part of the plan from the start.
Start a war, close the Straight, lift Russian sanctions.


It was either planned or events are moving beyond their control and this is a panicked reaction.

We are now paying for Putin's army.

Either one needs explaining.

Totally onboard with this.

[AKIron]

I'm glad some of you guys ain't runnin' the show. I hear it helps if you yell at the clouds. Maybe shake your fist a little.

[CptTrips]

I'm glad some of you guys ain't runnin' the show. I hear it helps if you yell at the clouds. Maybe shake your fist a little.

Do you support letting Putin sell his 10 billion dollars worth of oil?

And do you think it was part of the original strategy, or is this a reaction to events they hadn't planned for?

You are not obligated to answer, but I sure am curious. 

I am utterly shocked, but not surprised, that we are now allowing Putin to fill his coffers.

First we destabilize the system sending oil prices skyrocketing,
then we lift sanction so Putin can cash in at the peak market.

Was this the plan?

[AKIron]

Do you support letting Putin sell his 10 billion dollars worth of oil?

I don't care what Putin does.

[CptTrips]

I don't care what Putin does.

Like invading other countries?

Because we're now buying his bullets.

[AKIron]

The IRS has millions of bullets. Let's buy those first.

[Eagler]

$97.20 a barrel now...

Higher diesel will push prices on everything higher...

Guess we are supposed to gladly pay these patriotic prices now while we save the world from itself....

If potato head had pulled this stunt would those cheering now still be....

Doubt it...

Eagler

[Busher]

I think this kind of needed to happen.  Do i think its going to fix the problem long term, probably not.

I wish there was a plan in place to erase these radicals for good, but most of them are hiding.  I would support  boots on the ground from joint forces if it was likely to erase these savages.  Not sure if there is Intel there support that action. If it was possible to pull it off, it would be a huge accomplishment for peace in that region.

Did they need to be cut down a limb or two in terms of offensive capabilities, wrapped with bad intent.. yes.

The consequences of ignoring these threats could and likely would be much greater to us, and many others than high gas prices had we let it slide much longer.

Neither situation is ideal..  but we have to live with it at this point, and hope for the best outcome possible.

An idea cannot be killed by eliminating people. Their society has no concept of a free democracy. They don't understand the concept They tried a brief smattering of democracy in 1906 and again from 1951 to 1953 before a CIA-backed coup.

As to boots on the ground... yours? your children? Approximately 3 million American military personnel served in Vietnam during the conflict. Involvement peaked in April 1969 with over 543,000 personnel stationed there.... 58,000 perished, countless maimed for life. So maybe you could estimate an acceptable level of loss because YKW wanted 1: to make sure they never got nukes? 2: to remove a leader who killed his own people? 3: to drive up the value of his oil shares? 4: to get Jeff E. off the front page of the NYT? Far too many very intelligent analysts are scratching their heads why the only solution he would use was military.

Seems we learned little from 20 years in southeast Asia.