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Offline CptTrips

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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2026, 01:03:46 PM »
If you didn't complain about the high prices a few years ago but are now then I wouldn't call you unpatriotic. Just stupid.

I always complain about high prices.  What sane person doesn't?

When egg prices were high that was ridiculous.  The high inflation was ridiculous.

What you are about to see between now and Nov, I expect things to be an order of magnitude worse.

Will you then complain?


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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2026, 01:14:06 PM »
Just saw orange man said "not scared of anything" when asked about boots on the ground turning into another Vietnam..

He is not doing God's work ... how brainwashed can you be ...

You do realize he is despised by the majority of the globe and starting with angry tattoo Pete and the rest of his yes men admin are embarrassing and not a good look...more like crazy as hell..

Still no answer if you patriots would be for the identical illegal action if potato head joe or hackles got in bed with Israel and did it...my guess is a big fat no..

I think Joe Kent doesn't agree with you either..

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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2026, 01:33:04 PM »
Hopefully you guys are ready for having to do this all again in 10 years, possibly less.

If there is no regime change, which i dont see happening... this is just buying time for counties in that region that otherwise would have been on the receiving end of a nuclear weapon.
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2026, 01:36:48 PM »
Hopefully you guys are ready for having to do this all again in 10 years, possibly less.

If there is no regime change, which i dont see happening... this is just buying time for counties in that region that otherwise would have been on the receiving end of a nuclear weapon.

There will be a regime change. Wait and see.
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2026, 01:39:44 PM »
Weird, I never believe a habitual liar, it’s just stupid.

Yet, people who do, forgot the last 500 times they’ve been wrong. Whats it like to always be wrong, about everything to date. <smh>
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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2026, 01:46:06 PM »
Hopefully you guys are ready for having to do this all again in 10 years, possibly less.

If there is no regime change, which i dont see happening... this is just buying time for counties in that region that otherwise would have been delivered a nuclear weapon.

All the more reason this should have been done right from the start.

GW1 lead-up was the pattern we should have followed.  Get you Authorization of Force that gets national leadership buy-in.  That gives you a better chance getting public buy-in.  They watched the debates.  They saw the arguments and they watched the vote.  Everyone knows then, including your enemy, that is the combine will of he American people. 

Then you work with your allies.  You explain your reasoning and present your clear, attainable, measurable victory and exit conditions.

Following the process buys you a lot more resistance to upsets and bad fortune.
Building your alliance gives you political cover and we could of already have a coalition of naval vessels ready to escort and patrol the Strait from the first hours.

The only naive mistake they made was thinking they could avoid the boots and let the uprising overthrow Saddam.

That never happened, no matter how much we bombed, until a young GI pulled him out of a Spider-Hole at bayonet point.

And then you have help for the reconstruction.  Pottery Barn Rules. 

If you leave a mess, it will turn into Syria and a patchwork of even more extremist warlords worse than the ones we assassinated.






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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2026, 01:53:17 PM »
One thing that's been proven recently, we have no need for NATO or the UN. We'll save hundreds of billions by withdrawing from both. Then we can make alliances beneficial to us.
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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2026, 01:56:58 PM »
There will be a regime change. Wait and see.

You assume regime change doesn't mean an even worse fundamentalist junta?

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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2026, 01:59:59 PM »
One thing that's been proven recently, we have no need for NATO or the UN. We'll save hundreds of billions by withdrawing from both. Then we can make alliances beneficial to us.

I bet they wish they knew that before they spilt blood and treasure supporting us in Afghanistan after 9/11.

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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2026, 02:04:17 PM »
If that's your measure then you need to observe that we spilt a lot more coming to their defense in two world wars. And we've spent trillions protecting Europe since. If you don't see that then you're blind.
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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2026, 02:05:48 PM »
Not to mention the $$$ our leaders are making off this...

The weirdest sick insider trading possible imo..

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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2026, 02:06:04 PM »
The UN has been less than useless for a long time. Let Europe provide for it's own defense.
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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2026, 02:12:20 PM »
One thing that's been proven recently, we have no need for NATO or the UN. We'll save hundreds of billions by withdrawing from both. Then we can make alliances beneficial to us.

Can't blame anyone from not wanting to get sucked into the mumbling bumbling trump party when it's run by someone who has an issue telling the truth and refraining from ridiculously untrue exaggerations...

That was the plan all along imo...start this crap and force others into it whether they want to join or not..and call them childish names when their common sense prevails..

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« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2026, 02:12:25 PM »
If that's your measure then you need to observe that we spilt a lot more coming to their defense in two world wars.

NATO was established AFTER WWII, Iron.

It is my measure that they fulfilled their NATO obligations admirably in Afghanistan after a fellow NATO member was attacked on 9-11.

Surely you are not disrespecting the sacrifices of 1,147 of their service members defending a fellow NATO ally?

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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2026, 02:20:44 PM »
NATO was established AFTER WWII, Iron.

It is my measure that they fulfilled their NATO obligations admirably in Afghanistan after a fellow member was attacked on 9-11.

Surely you are not disrespecting the sacrifices of 1,147 of their service members defending a fellow NATO ally?

Where are you getting that number? That's not close to what I see.

NATO is a result of WWII and the memberships largely follow those alliances. To pretend they aren't related is disingenuous.

Total NATO/Coalition Deaths: Approximately 3,485–3,621+.
Top 5 Contributing Nations (Deaths):
United States:
 2,400–2,461
United Kingdom: 457
Canada: 159
France: 90
Germany: 62
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