Limit bases to 15 planes

[Animl-AW]

This worked very well in AW. Yes it puts some out of a base, but it spread the numbers and full country hordes harder to HURT the game.

40-50 planes from one base is nuts.people who do it refuse to listen. No matter how much it hurts the game and numbers they do it anyway.

In AW sometimes they caught up with the group or started another battle.

I after constant complaints I won’t even debate the “get over it” nonsense, it’s biased nonsense.

Frankly, I’m beyond burnt out of it.

This change won’t happen and the game will continue to degrade by people who know better. Players have proven they can’t police themselves for more than 1 day.

15 plane limit

Or this summer is going to seriously suck because they keep driving players out, including me.
Like many I’m 100% burned out on dweebville. Cheap excuses will not save the game, they approve ruining it for a laugh.

[Animl-AW]

Oh, btw, welcome to the every weekend nit beat down with a bish rook truce ruining even bother flying for nits. Every weekend ruined for nit players

Ruinng the game for many, they log, then hordes cry about numbers.

If it’s the normal weekend, I’m out for the weekend. Sooner or later the game period, like a lot of others.

Your summer is going to suck.

[Animl-AW]

<crockets>

Exactly what I figured.

Doomed

[LilMak]

Probably crickets because it’s a pointless idea. Most of the time only about 20 per team these days. 15 is still 75% of a team so it wouldn’t do anything to limit the number of planes. Plus plenty of bases so would do much but delay the horde by less than 5 min.

Want to slow hordes? Fix the stupid radar that makes picking easier!

[Animl-AW]

Probably crickets because it’s a pointless idea. Most of the time only about 20 per team these days. 15 is still 75% of a team so it wouldn’t do anything to limit the number of planes. Plus plenty of bases so would do much but delay the horde by less than 5 min.

Want to slow hordes? Fix the stupid radar that makes picking easier!

Delaying the main horde as one group helps. Don’t know why you say that 15 is a whole group when 3-4 squads join in from a single base to be 3 bars. A squad may be 15, but 3-4 squads is not. Its pure vomit.

Its crickets because they don’t want to comply with not ruining the game.

Dar has zero to do with full country hordes.

Its only pointless when the horders look at it as voodoo to their selfishness. Life is all about them.

Mark my words, summer is going to suck because of them. Ya struggle to keep 80 in the air midwinter.

I’m not goin to waste my summer in this crap game play, I’m not alone.

15 limit is at least doing something.

The way I look at it, every second of my efforts were wasted time. Good play is almost gone. I log in look at map and log off an hr later because its puke.

<shrug>

[Rubicon]

Please specify as to what you mean 15 planes a base.

• 15 total in the hangar?
• 15 total booked out from that base and in flight (i.e. not dead)
• 15 bombers? 15 fighters? 15 fighter bombers?  Which planes specifically?
• Are you going to place the same limits on GVs?
• What is your resully theory?  Once they are killed they respawn immediately or is there a clock applied and they are unavailable for xx minutes?

This is my second weekend back in the game after a long hiatus.  I can tell you that less planes is not the answer.  Less bases is IMO.

But I want to be a fighter pilot so I would welcome a compressed battle with more planes and a smaller area.  I would also get rid of GVs     But people seem to like playing them.

[Kini]

So what happens to organized squad ops or pick up missions that are popular some evenings?

[Animl-AW]

So what happens to organized squad ops or pick up missions that are popular some evenings?

1) it won’t happen, nothing happens anymore.
2) Most sqds, if not all, don’t have more than 15 online at a time. Joint operations up two bases and meet up, if there are not enough.
3) Any plane from a base that dies that base gets that count back.
You wanna keep that plane, you land and use refueling if the count is down.
4) Limit missions to 16 planes or able to use two bases.

The concept is ya have to work to have a 30-50 plane full country horde, not roll out the red carpet to up a single base and cook the game. Preserving the game is above dweebery.

People work all week waiting to play on weekends, they log in and see two options fir a battle. 7-1 or 7-1. Over whelming odds just to rack up some else kills is discouraging wanting to play, watch the numbers dive.

Right now weekend gang bangs with full country hordes on Nits is now predictable. You can out it on a calendar. Nit only is it several sqds to get that horde, I’m convinced there is some form of coordination between bish and rooks, which makes it more predictable.

If they make a weekend warrior log off eventually they just cancel the sub.

No more talk, they don’t want to change for more than 1-2 days snd they don’t want to listen. They use the cheapest excuses to justify it, same as other subjects, its a mindset. “Screw everyone but me.”

Doesn’t matter who is on the receiving end, it has negative impacts.

15 planes smooths that out to a degree. You end up with more battles than two overwhelming choices. So, become a kill for a horde or milkrun bases, how fun.

I have films of up to 8 chasing me for a kill. Its funny and sad. I won’t fight a full country horde to buffer their GB scores. I’d rather log than feed them kills.

Main points
Its way the f out of hand and destructive.
There needs to be a clamp on it.
Since it won’t happen numbers WILL continue to drop. It’s not fun.

Its got to being boring to throw 30-40 at 5 defenders.

I no longer care what their excuses are, they are BS to get off the subject and excuse it away. We have problems keeping numbers without that crap, with it we are all doomed. They don’t care as long as they can do it one more day, why a setting is needed.

They can rest assured it won’t happen.
Fine, but I’d rather deny them kills and log rather than feed them, many do.

Its a proposal to save the game, its that easy. It helps soread the players out and more than 2 battles to select to be in.

[JimmyD3]

-1

[Animl-AW]

-1

What I figured. The ones doing it will be against it. Since 2/3 of the pop does it it will bever win the vote, even if it did it won’t happen.

It was never posted to get results.

But I I were running it thats exactly what I would do. Byw, someone else from AW brought it up first. So its not even just me.

Tje robbers never want the vault locked, right?

[Dadtallica]

It’s silly idea. Why would we gate keep even further.

[Animl-AW]

It’s silly idea. Why would we gate keep even further.

As said in first post, it worked well in AW from beginning to end.  Everyone who flew it knows that. This subject is the exact very reason. Now we know what happens whens its not.

Another point. Expecting a winning vote for a leash is why players don’t control settings.

[JimmyD3]

What I figured. The ones doing it will be against it. Since 2/3 of the pop does it it will bever win the vote, even if it did it won’t happen.

It was never posted to get results.

But I I were running it thats exactly what I would do. Byw, someone else from AW brought it up first. So its not even just me.

Tje robbers never want the vault locked, right?

It is an idea, not one I agree with, but at least your not afraid to make suggestions. Got on for a few minutes this morning, Rooks had 43% of bish bases. If I was calling the shots, that would mean an immediate reset with NO perks given. There is NEVER a justification for that type of beat down. But it is what it is.

Last night most of my squad of 18+ logged off after the double team keeping us down. Oh well that's life. 

[Animl-AW]

It is an idea, not one I agree with, but at least your not afraid to make suggestions. Got on for a few minutes this morning, Rooks had 43% of bish bases. If I was calling the shots, that would mean an immediate reset with NO perks given. There is NEVER a justification for that type of beat down. But it is what it is.

Last night most of my squad of 18+ logged off after the double team keeping us down. Oh well that's life. 

but see, it won’t cure it 100%, but it will def curb it.
It’s only it is what it is when nothing is done.

By now, you know how I hate wack-a-mole with half-baked settings. This one has proven itself.

You also confirm it forces log offs, a problem. If it didn’t I’d say owell.

If this happens on the only times a player can play it’s hard to  justify the sub. OR like many I know/knew, just fly events.

I do believe the setting exist, if so, no coding.

Yes it can be annoying, but its better than an empty MA

One thing is true, not all players will like what should be done. It’s about preservation of the game, no vote required.


Ya don’t just let a kid eat candy all day and night, right?

[Animl-AW]

BYW, I would back you on a reset when that happens, no matter what country is the victim

Time to reimplement a more honorable game play and sportsmanship. Full country hordes is not it, IMO.