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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2026, 09:38:49 AM »
A projectile/bullet is most likely a global setting for that specific round. This would affect every plane using that caliber. The setting is about the caliber not the aircraft that uses it.

Firing forward guns adds speed to the round, air speed + bullet speed, firing the opposite/rear, the opposite direction of the travel of the AC removes speed from the round, round speed - air  speed. The drop is different. So the variation of drop on a rear gun will change depending on AC air speed. The lower the speed the less it will drop, its not removing as much speed of the round.

A rear gun firing ar IAS of 150 should be different than firing at 300 IAS.

If you always did the same IAS when firing the round it would be more consistent.

This is RL laws of physics the gunners figured out in WWII on how to lead the target. Many YT vids on this.

You have the illusion its changing because it is, depending on IAS.

On forward firing guns at the IAS of 350 will add 350 IAS to the round speed. If from a stationary firing is 600, its now 950. It works reverse in rear firing. It can slow it enough to miss and/or cause less damage.

If a bullet speed is 600 and the AC IAS is 600 that bullet it almost worthless. It would basically just drop out the barrel.

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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2026, 10:11:53 AM »
Many times I have defended you and your gameplay to other players, but honestly I was wrong.

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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2026, 10:35:13 AM »
BTW, the illusion physics creates does not mean the person is stupid. It took quite a bit of research for gunners to figure out. When physics is explained it tends to make more sense.

The illusion is real. Hopefully, explaining the physics helps understanding. The first rear gunners were baffled why they filled the air with lead and not get the expected reaction. When one gunner figured this out is when it made sense to the rest. Gunning techniques changed and more productive.

The blame goes to physics, not HT.
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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2026, 12:16:14 PM »
I think the issue here is that you can just use two accounts without actually coordinating an attack which results in the “cheating” claims. LCA and Sic Puppies have always been good at coordinating attacks, there’s no reason to be gaming the game with a 2nd account and then going all in on the goat tirade

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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2026, 12:23:01 PM »
I dont have proof? Just a quick question. How much do you/have you flown in bombers over the last 10 years?
I have plenty of experience in bombers. The majority would be shooting folks down in 234s. I am not a dedicated bomber pilot, so definitely not as much as some folks here, but certainly enough to confidently say I'd notice a change like your baseless claim.

If you can point out the difference in code from the time bomber guns used to be and now when you claim they are different, I'd say that's proof. Anything else is conjecture.
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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2026, 12:47:13 PM »
I think the issue here is that you can just use two accounts without actually coordinating an attack which results in the “cheating” claims. LCA and Sic Puppies have always been good at coordinating attacks, there’s no reason to be gaming the game with a 2nd account and then going all in on the goat tirade

My GOATNESS has nothing to do with the ability and effectiveness to play using multiple accounts at the sametime. That style of gameplay only increases the chance of success hedged against my time investment.

It's in the small details overlooked from the average/fighter dominate player. Things such as fuel and armament loadouts, utilizing climb rates for strategic positioning, using the right kind of evasive manuevering at correct angles and bank to offset the attack, quick turning after a bomb run to shorten the spread of downtimes between targets like hangers, town buildings, and guns. The ability to defend against multiple fighters within a short sequence, the ability to coordinate effective attacks on strats to utilize attacking mutliple bases at one time in a blitz style operation, and last but not least using bombers to offset the number disadvantages against a superior force attacking from land, air, or sea.

I dont control the perceptions of players who's pack rat style of social interaction is based on what works for/conviences them. As I have stated many many times before the claim of greatest of all time is an open source psy-op aimed at poki g my haters that to this day yeilds outstanding results. It's amazing how momentum swings when i show up.

Those who complain i just force people to log dont care when they do the same they just focus on the win and complain when the shoe is on the other foot.

Im good for 1 or 2 dats where I set out to capture a countries bases all the way to their strats for the intention of waging a campaign against their HQ for a few hours. Friday just happened to be one of those random days focuses on Bishops  :salute
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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2026, 01:03:54 PM »
Saw GOAT episode in buffs was expecting 999000.
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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2026, 01:08:18 PM »
Stupidest thread of year locked down already and it’s only March.
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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2026, 01:41:56 PM »
I have plenty of experience in bombers. The majority would be shooting folks down in 234s. I am not a dedicated bomber pilot, so definitely not as much as some folks here, but certainly enough to confidently say I'd notice a change like your baseless claim.

If you can point out the difference in code from the time bomber guns used to be and now when you claim they are different, I'd say that's proof. Anything else is conjecture.

What your asking is a bannable offense. Why you give Dale a call and ask if a player has permission to that :rofl

Get outta here with this im a skilled 234 pilot with plenty of experince in bombers to know this from that.

You dont have a thousand sorties in a bomber? And thats after how many years? How would you know a change to anything without being told in an official update? LoL
« Last Edit: March 22, 2026, 01:53:32 PM by mERv »
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"Ever wonder why its always b-17s and B-24s? It allows him an extreme advantage over other players hence his bomber kill count, that and his lazer beam guns"Diaster
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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2026, 01:52:42 PM »
Stupidest thread of year locked down already and it’s only March.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man  :ahand

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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2026, 02:04:41 PM »
What your asking is a bannable offense. Why you give Dale a call and ask if a player has permission to that :rofl

Get outta here with this im a skilled 234 pilot with plenty of experince in bombers to know this from that.

You dont have a thousand sorties in a bomber? And thats after how many years? How would you know a change to anything without being told in an official update? LoL
I'll call him tomorrow and ask him if there have been any changes to the way bomber guns work in the last 10 years.

I'm sorry that my 20 years of playing this game are not up to your standards of expertise. Fortunately, I don't really care about your opinion nor do I need to prove anything to you. You can't provide proof of your accusation, therefore it is conjecture.
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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2026, 03:33:31 PM »
I'll call him tomorrow and ask him if there have been any changes to the way bomber guns work in the last 10 years.

I'm sorry that my 20 years of playing this game are not up to your standards of expertise. Fortunately, I don't really care about your opinion nor do I need to prove anything to you. You can't provide proof of your accusation, therefore it is conjecture.

If he didnt announce it before would he do it now because you need validation?

If he says yes does that effect your perception of the game in a negative way?

In a game that has dwindled do you think he would jeprodize status quo in a way that could negatively effect revenue?

Get outta here with all this 20 years garbage I asked you a simple question. Your talking about things you could never know without upping in bombers tens of thousands of times.

I do enjoy it when you fellas try to make this personal when your all worked up. Your like the school yard bully who goes around pushing people down for fun but as soon as you get pushed you cry foul and throw a huge fit  :rofl

For the record as I have previously stated sometime between 22'-23' i began to notice several changes to the way bombers took damage, gave damage, and an anomoly in gun accuracy compared to times before.

Prior to this time I could focus on a target +1k out and hit with lazer beam accuracy. Now a days the spread of rounds within a targeted circumference at distance has changed. The days of lazer beams which is what 999000 is notoriously known for no longer exists. Its not a personal hardware issue.

« Last Edit: March 22, 2026, 03:38:47 PM by mERv »
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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2026, 03:51:08 PM »
If he didnt announce it before would he do it now because you need validation?

If he says yes does that effect your perception of the game in a negative way?

In a game that has dwindled do you think he would jeprodize status quo in a way that could negatively effect revenue?

Get outta here with all this 20 years garbage I asked you a simple question. Your talking about things you could never know without upping in bombers tens of thousands of times.

I do enjoy it when you fellas try to make this personal when your all worked up. Your like the school yard bully who goes around pushing people down for fun but as soon as you get pushed you cry foul and throw a huge fit  :rofl

I don't need any validation. I know that I am correct and you are not. Fortunately, it's likely the majority of the player base is in agreement.

If he says yes, my perception would not change though I'd be curious if such a change was intentionally left out of patch notes. HT has always been a straight shooter if you ask. If he said no, I doubt you'd believe him anyway, so no real point in going down that road.

I did answer your question:

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I am not a dedicated bomber pilot, so definitely not as much as some folks here, but certainly enough to confidently say I'd notice a change like your baseless claim.

I don't know how many bomber sorties I've done. I don't record that stuff because it is largely irrelevant to me.

You sought to bring forth a claim, the burden of proof is on the claimant. I'm not sure where I've cried foul and/or thrown a fit.

For what it's worth, usually the actual 'greatest' players in anything are not self-proclaimed. They are recognized by their fans or peers as being the greatest. People like Tom Brady or Michael Jordan in sports. In this game, people like Levi or Grizz or Bruv (the list goes on). I think it is fair to say the only thing you are the GOAT at is making yourself look like an ass. Whatever gets you through the day though, I guess.
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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2026, 04:36:03 PM »
I don't need any validation. I know that I am correct and you are not. Fortunately, it's likely the majority of the player base is in agreement.

If he says yes, my perception would not change though I'd be curious if such a change was intentionally left out of patch notes. HT has always been a straight shooter if you ask. If he said no, I doubt you'd believe him anyway, so no real point in going down that road.

I did answer your question:

I don't know how many bomber sorties I've done. I don't record that stuff because it is largely irrelevant to me.

You sought to bring forth a claim, the burden of proof is on the claimant. I'm not sure where I've cried foul and/or thrown a fit.

For what it's worth, usually the actual 'greatest' players in anything are not self-proclaimed. They are recognized by their fans or peers as being the greatest. People like Tom Brady or Michael Jordan in sports. In this game, people like Levi or Grizz or Bruv (the list goes on). I think it is fair to say the only thing you are the GOAT at is making yourself look like an ass. Whatever gets you through the day though, I guess.

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Re: GOAT Episode 4
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2026, 05:37:20 PM »
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man  :ahand

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lol nice one  :aok
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