« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down

Author Topic: Plane crash  (Read 7866 times)

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15363
Plane crash
« on: March 23, 2026, 08:59:37 AM »
ATC needs more AI integration and an eventual handoff. This looks like ATC error but an investigation will reveal all. AI would not have made this mistake.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/new-york-laguardia-plane-crash-march-23
Logged
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Online LilMak

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1617
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2026, 09:37:34 AM »
Until AI is flying the plane and driving the truck as well as controlling the traffic, this is not something that can be prevented 100%.

Even if AI controlled all of it, AI would still be forced to occasionally make decisions based on potential outcomes with deadly consequences.
Logged
"When caught by the enemy in large force the best policy is to fight like hell until you can decide what to do next."
~Hub Zemke
P-47 pilot 56th Fighter Group.

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15363
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2026, 10:03:16 AM »
AI could require acknowledgement from the truck to hold short runway xx and without that give the plane an abort/go around. Humans make mistakes for sure but the fewer humans in the mix the fewer mistakes.
Logged
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15363
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2026, 10:07:56 AM »
AI can fly planes and drive trucks but barring that a system on any vehicle operating on the airfield could have integration with big red/green lights showing clearance to enter runways or not.
Logged
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Offline Busher

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2668
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2026, 11:04:07 AM »
Installation of AI into a certain mansion might help the world's crises. The only "A" there now is skin color but sadly there is no "I" at all.
Logged
Being male, an accident of birth. Being a man, a matter of age. Being a gentleman, a matter of choice.

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15363
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2026, 11:15:13 AM »
Shouldn't you be screaming at the sky?
Logged
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Offline Busher

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2668
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2026, 11:21:43 AM »
Why would I do that? I like the sky.
Logged
Being male, an accident of birth. Being a man, a matter of age. Being a gentleman, a matter of choice.

Offline Spikes

  • Aces High CM Staff
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 16311
    • Twitch: Twitch Feed
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2026, 12:00:54 PM »
We want AI to deal with complex situations and mathematical equations that tend to leave little room for error? Sure, sounds great.

Logged
i7-12700k | Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 | EVGA 1080ti FTW3 | H150i Capellix

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15363
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2026, 12:05:29 PM »
This will apparently be news for some but AI is and has been flying planes and driving cars for a while now. Most of your last commercial flight was handled by AI.

Of course "AI" is not limited to chatgpt or LLMs. Auto pilots are a limited form of AI.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2026, 12:17:30 PM by AKIron »
Logged
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15363
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2026, 12:19:40 PM »
It'll happen in stages and already is. Eventually there will only be human overseers. Later, not even that.
Logged
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Offline Eagler

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 20438
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2026, 12:20:06 PM »
Peace to the families of the pilots...what an avoidable way to go...

Eagler
Logged
Intel Core i7-13700KF | GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 | 16GB GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Ti Super | 850 watt ps | Pimax Crystal Super | Warthog stick | TM1600 throttle | VKB Mk.V Rudder

Offline JimmyD3

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4987
      • Gospel Web
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2026, 12:49:52 PM »
FYI, AI is not the answer to everything.  :D
Logged
Kenai77
CO Sic Puppies MWK
USAF 1971-76

Online LilMak

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1617
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2026, 01:29:40 PM »
Quote from: AKIron on March 23, 2026, 12:05:29 PM
This will apparently be news for some but AI is and has been flying planes and driving cars for a while now. Most of your last commercial flight was handled by AI.

Of course "AI" is not limited to chatgpt or LLMs. Auto pilots are a limited form of AI.
Comparing an autopilot to AI is like saying a third grader and a physicist can both solve math equations.
Logged
"When caught by the enemy in large force the best policy is to fight like hell until you can decide what to do next."
~Hub Zemke
P-47 pilot 56th Fighter Group.

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15363
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2026, 02:01:23 PM »
Quote from: LilMak on March 23, 2026, 01:29:40 PM
Comparing an autopilot to AI is like saying a third grader and a physicist can both solve math equations.

True but an autopilot can already takeoff, fly to a destination, and land a plane. With more brains it can do that and handle emergencies too. It could also link to an AI controller communicating thousands of times faster than humans and error free.
Logged
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Offline Randy1

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4726
Re: Plane crash
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2026, 02:06:06 PM »
I thought it was interesting using the add description of the truck, ". . .  and company."  There seemed to be an awkwardness to  that when the controller spoke.  A disruption in his rhythm for sure.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
« previous next »