Space Exploration

[RUSH1]

You're going to have to be more specific about which fraud benefits which politician. Otherwise, your post just looks like rambling nonsense.

That's right, the only thing in Minnesota being covered by your news sources is the blue haired obstructionists who they portray as civil libertarians.  Nothing about fraud.   

[AKIron]

Unmanned cargo rockets powered by fusion engines fueled by helium-3. Could be a real game changer. Brings to mind Rearden Steel.

[AKIron]

[AKIron]

The Flat Earthers will be along shortly to tell us that we never put a man on the moon.

[icepac]

Pretty sure the chinese have plenty of pics of the Apollo landing sites and we just might get pics of them from artemis II's flyby.

[CptTrips]

I'm a big fan of manned spaceflight in low orbit, Lagrange Point station , Lunar surface\dark-side.

I'm sweating this one.  We are really out of practice.  I hope all goes smooth.

I'm not a big fan of manned flight to Mars.  I mean if someone wants to use their own personal money, go for it.
But for the price of that we could have a permanent 100 man Lunar station.

For the foreseeable future, the best bang for the buck is to use AI\robots out past the Moon.

[Tumor]

Artemis 2 will be a colossal failure.

SpaceX will step in to save the day.

NASA gets cancelled and nobody loses their toejam.

[Eagler]

Get the feeling they are trying to sell it with Apollo program patriotism but it just feels like another waste of money in the end and just another distraction from the swirling toilet bowl that is our country and its unraveling propped up economy now..

Mars...if that day ever comes the only way most of us .. our great great grandkids..would ever see it is if it were to become a penal colony..otherwise it'll be just another space trip for the bored rich and famous..



Eagler

[AKKuya]

Humans re only safe going to the moon.  Why?  The Earth's electromagnetic fields extends past the orbit of the moon.  This blocks massive amount of solar radiation.

Mars?

Humans will be susceptible to that solar radiation.  We don't have the proper protection for that.  Not yet.   NASA does have limited protection methods.  9 months to a year travel time gives ample opportunity for CME's and other radiation hazards.

On Mars, there is no ozone.  There is a weak EM field.

Just the facts.

We need a breakthrough in technology and industrial capacity to adequately explore the solar system with humans.

[Brooke]

I'd love to see mankind colonize space, moons, other planets, asteroids.

I think it is the destiny of man to do this.

That being said, I'm not in favor of wasting money.  Goals should be pursued in a cost-effective manner.

I don't know enough about this mission and how it fits into a bigger plan to make any judgement on the money part.

In terms of saving money, though, there is drastically lower-hanging fruit than space expenditures to save money.

Namely cutting obvious and amazing levels of fraud in federal and state government would yield drastically more than space expenditures.

[Animl-AW]

I'd love to see mankind colonize space, moons, other planets, asteroids.

I think it is the destiny of man to do this.

That being said, I'm not in favor of wasting money.  Goals should be pursued in a cost-effective manner.

I don't know enough about this mission and how it fits into a bigger plan to make any judgement on the money part.

In terms of saving money, though, there is drastically lower-hanging fruit than space expenditures to save money.

Namely cutting obvious and amazing levels of fraud in federal and state government would yield drastically more than space expenditures.

Agreed 100%

[RUSH1]

Agreed 100%

Really, what fraud would you cut out?   

[Busher]

I'd love to see mankind colonize space, moons, other planets, asteroids.

I think it is the destiny of man to do this.

I guess my point was completely lost. Enormous sums of money are spent to travel to the moon - a 3 day trip with existing technology - Mars at best would be 7 months. I hope research is going on in alternative concepts for space travel because Newtonian "thrust results in velocity" just ain't making it. It's doubtful that investment in science looks as good on the campaign trail as does a successful moon landing.

[RUSH1]

I guess my point was completely lost. Enormous sums of money are spent to travel to the moon - a 3 day trip with existing technology - Mars at best would be 7 months

If fiscal responsibility were truly important to you, you would not have ignored his comment on rampant fraud.   

[potsNpans]

I'm pro on this trip. This is another step toward building on the moon, then step toward another horizon. Sea to shining sea.
What is the ROI, yet tbd.