Space Exploration

[Busher]

Let me start by saying I am all in favor of expanding human knowledge and understanding.... but this Artemis project represents $93 billion dollars to do a flyby.

Between 1969 and 1972, 6 lunar landings allowed 12 men to walk on the surface of the moon and I believe the general consensus was that our moon is not high value real estate.

No doubt man needs to explore space; the experts say that our Sun will nova in about 5 billion years and who knows, maybe mankind will make the place uninhabitable even sooner.

With existing technology space travel is painfully slow. Voyager was launched 49 years ago and Nasa recently reported that this craft has a distance of one light/day. Einstein never said “we can travel at light speed.” In fact, his theory of relativity explicitly says that no object with mass can reach or exceed the speed of light because its energy requirement would become infinite.

I guess my point is, if we decide that space travel is worth the money, would it be a better idea to spend these incredible sums of dollars on trying to find out if Einstein was hopefully wrong?

[RUSH1]

Let me start by saying I am all in favor of expanding human knowledge and understanding.... but this Artemis project represents $93 billion dollars to do a flyby.

Between 1969 and 1972, 6 lunar landings allowed 12 men to walk on the surface of the moon and I believe the general consensus was that our moon is not high value real estate.

No doubt man needs to explore space; the experts say that our Sun will nova in about 5 billion years and who knows, maybe mankind will make the place uninhabitable even sooner.

With existing technology space travel is painfully slow. Voyager was launched 49 years ago and Nasa recently reported that this craft has a distance of one light/day. Einstein never said “we can travel at light speed.” In fact, his theory of relativity explicitly says that no object with mass can reach or exceed the speed of light because its energy requirement would become infinite.

I guess my point is, if we decide that space travel is worth the money, would it be a better idea to spend these incredible sums of dollars on trying to find out if Einstein was hopefully wrong?

For a Canadian who's country contributes almost nothing to what you bich about, you sure do have a lot of complaints about the country that keeps yours halfway relevant.  Quite the pattern.   

[AKIron]

if we decide that space travel is worth the money

Who is we?

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

 

[RUSH1]

Who is we?

A jealous, French-Canadian.   

[Devil 505]

I wish I could get excited for humans returning to the moon. Been a dream of mine to see since I was a kid in the 80's.

But like everything these days, it's all for show with no purpose beyond the publicity.

[RUSH1]

I wish I could get excited for humans returning to the moon. Been a dream of mine to see since I was a kid in the 80's.

But like everything these days, it's all for show with no purpose beyond the publicity.

I'll take that over taxpayers being defrauded for the benefit of "certain politicians".  Right, Devil?

[Devil 505]

I'll take that over taxpayers being defrauded for the benefit of "certain politicians".  Right, Devil?

You're going to have to be more specific about which fraud benefits which politician. Otherwise, your post just looks like rambling nonsense.

[icepac]

The “existing technology” mentioned in the first post “exists” mainly because of the moon and shuttle programs.

[AKKuya]

The technology exists due to a terrible crash landing.  1947. Roswell.

This was a response from another violent crash.  1903. Tunguska.

Sputnik triggered the Space Race.  The Moon is now under a US flag.

Why are we going back to the Moon and then to Mars?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9bbFUxTBQI

A new threat has emerged with more recovered technology.

Space will always be dominated by the Powerful.

This is all publicity.  It's a smoke screen.  The real deal is being worked on right now.

Secret collaboration among the superpowers to building human-alien spacecraft to defend from hostile alien threat.

1903 saw Wright brothers with powered flight after 6000 years of nothing.
1945 saw first atomic explosions.
1947 saw sound barrier broken.
1949 saw first rocket into space from White Sands.
1970s saw stealth technology.
1980s saw explosion in computer technology.
1990s saw explosion in internet.
2020s starts explosion in AI.

Reverse engineered. 

Start working on your bucket lists.  The End in near.
1957 saw Sputnik in orbit.

 

[Eagler]

Pretty sure the money should be spent fixing this planet and not the next ride for the bored rich and famous..

Nothing but a distraction from real issues that were shown on the television about 3 hours after the rocket launch...

Eagler

[Eviscerate]

For a Canadian who's country contributes almost nothing to what you bich about, you sure do have a lot of complaints about the country that keeps yours halfway relevant.  Quite the pattern.   

Where ya been?

[AKIron]

The moon is covered in Helium-3 which if can be mined relatively economically could bring about clean cheap energy in nuclear fusion.

[Eagler]

The moon is covered in Helium-3 which if can be mined relatively economically could bring about clean cheap energy in nuclear fusion.

What exactly sounds cheap in getting energy in any form from the moon...

It cost over $10 billion just for this fly by...

Eagler

[AKIron]

What exactly sounds cheap in getting energy in any form from the moon...

It cost over $10 billion just for this fly by...

Eagler

I said "if". Elon can probably make it routine and relatively cheap. Helium-3 is mass produced by our sun but little of it makes it to the Earth.

Helium-3 goes for about $20 million per kg.