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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2026, 07:30:35 AM »


Ooofff.

AI is a powerful tool, but it shouldn't be allowed to rule us.

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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2026, 09:53:25 AM »

Ooofff.

AI is a powerful tool, but it shouldn't be allowed to rule us.



Morgan and Morgan will eat that stuff up...

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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2026, 10:03:24 AM »
Morgan and Morgan will eat that stuff up...

I don't blame AI for this.
AI will be wrong some percentage of time.
But a human security guard who thinks he recognizes a guy can also be wrong.

The fault was with the officer.
Your physical pieces of government issued id should outweigh whatever an AI system, or human security guard says.

Take the info and you can always go pick the guy up later when you are sure.
Worst case a bad guy gets away today, but that is way better than arresting a citizen.



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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2026, 11:16:15 AM »
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2026, 12:33:09 PM »
I think he is underestimating.
In 5 years I think we'll see that the current way we've been structuring society will not continue to function.
I think this will happen way faster than people can retrain. 
I think it will be civilizational change in both good and bad directions, and I don't think there is any way to stop it and arguably it shouldn't.
That doesn't mean there won't be birthing pains and if not handled deftly.

I mean how would our country function with 50% unemployment with no prospect of a future job.
There is some limit to the number of plumbers and welders we need.  Not near enough to soak up the wave of obsoleted knowledge workers.

Desperate people are dangerous to a well ordered society. 
If 50% of the people become desperate, things could get sporty.

But there is no stopping it, and if we foolishly tried, all the other countries would love the chance to leap-frog us.  There is no path but through it.


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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2026, 02:50:24 PM »
Government (free)10x10 cube housing with shared bathroom and kitchen/food court with high speed internet, vr and free AI phone with a daily soma tab will keep most satisfied...

Don't forget the free AI companion of your choice that confirms constantly how fantastic you and your life are..

The rest of the workforce will work and do what their AI managers tells them to do..

While our rulers and richest do what they want to when they want to..like they do now..

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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2026, 03:54:30 PM »
Government (free)10x10 cube housing with shared bathroom and kitchen/food court with high speed internet, vr and free AI phone with a daily soma tab will keep most satisfied...

Is there a remedy?

Do you think we can stop it?

Should we?

Remember, these aren't going to be just slacker Gen Z, it's going to be the guy down the street who does IT, or your nephew who just graduated with a CompSci degree and debt.  People who applied themselves and followed all the rules.

I think the basic social contract is about to break. 


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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2026, 07:53:46 AM »
Doesn't sound like we can support what is coming..

If it follows the normal technology life cycle, I expect it to follow something like Moore's Law.

Most of what is in a LLM is garbage.  It works, but it is hugely expensive. As models refine, the garbage is continually sorted each generation.  That is core to what DeepSeek did.  They further refined the garbagy models of other companies.  But those companies just stole content off the internet so cry me a river.

Eventually AI will be running locally in your phone using tiny fractions of the energy.

So it is risky to try and project in the future based on the current state of the tech.  Tech isn't static.

This was a mobile phone in the early 80's:


I expect the capability and efficiency of AI to improve exponentially and demand to increase exponentially.  Hopefully similar curves.

This is Capitalism.  It will use up all the recourses the Market can bear.  As long as companies believe it will make them more than it costs.  I expect some new equilibrium to be achieved.

Now, whether Capitalism still makes sense after AI gets big enough, is a more complex question.  I suspect there will be some reorganization of society.  It will be unavoidable if you have 50% unemployment among educated knowledge workers.  Those people will vote.  Some accommodation is going to be made.


But you never offered a remedy.  Do you think we should pass laws outlawing AI?




 
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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2026, 12:03:29 PM »
So they are going to disassemble this gigantic farms and magically correct the droughts today's tech causes when this advancement becomes a reality..

I think the damage will be done on many levels before that happens..

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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2026, 12:10:54 PM »
So they are going to disassemble this gigantic farms and magically correct the droughts today's tech causes when this advancement becomes a reality..

I think the damage will be done on many levels before that happens..



What is your remedy?

Ban AI?

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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2026, 12:11:30 PM »
Of course you don't need to disassemble anything to just cut the water off.

Save the Delta Smelt!
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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2026, 12:19:08 PM »
One thing I think needs to happen is we have to grow up as a society and realize nuclear power is the main future with renewables and natgas as backups.

The tech is ready.  The small-modular reactor and other modern designs far more advanced.  This is no longer 3-Mile Island tech.

If we ever get fusion,  energy would essentially be free.
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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2026, 12:38:00 PM »

Assuming we don't do something stupid like try and ban it, there is no path but through it.

Energy spent whining about it needs to start being applied to devising palliative measures because turning your back on a grizzly hoping if you don't see it means it won't eat you, is a losing strategy.

Our entire concepts of work and income and careers might need adjustment.  You can't tell 80 million displaced knowledge workers to pull themselves up by their bootstraps when the jobs have simply vanished.  These aren't people who made bad decisions are are strung out on drugs.  These are people who worked hard on their education and training to simply see whole career fields vanish is a year or two.  No way it could have been foreseen until the last couple of years.

And don't get me started on the current unemployment numbers.  Like inflations they like to play games.
Worse the numbers are hugely skewed by age.  Young people are facing near Depression level unemployment.  That leads to a lot of young people delaying or abandoning the idea of starting families.  That feeds into demographics and future economic power.  We risk turning into an aging Japan.

If things continue on the expected path, we are going to have to discuss UBI and National Health system. 
You don't want 100 million unemployed desperate and disillusioned military aged citizens hanging around on street corners.


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Re: Worked with AI to put together a weather warning program.
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2026, 10:12:58 AM »
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