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Offline RUSH1

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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2026, 08:15:26 PM »
Brink?

Days?

Weeks?

Months?

Years?

Are you claiming the risk was SO eminent that trump had to act before he got Congressional Authorization?

Well, it's 60 days in.  I guess he has time now.

Does Israel have nukes?

Which Iranian missile platform can reach the continental US?

You can't answer the question, can you? 

Edit:  Just realized that you tried to equate Israel with Iran in terms of aggression if both had nukes.  You're an idiot. 
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2026, 08:27:40 PM »
You can't answer the question, can you?

There was no intelligible question.

I can't answer until I know what definition of "on the brink" you are using.

What I believe is there was no program in operation to construct a nuclear weapon and if they wanted to, they have no delivery vehicle that can reach the US.

What Iran wanted was an enrichment program that they could spool up to a bomb if war with Israel looked on the horizon.  By religious decree, they did not want to possess a bomb in storage like Israel does.  Israel has ~100 warheads.

Seems reasonable.  We've seen how countries that don't have a bomb get treated.  We would have never attacked a nuclear power like this.  You've taught everyone that lesson.  Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Syria.  Get a bomb before you get in the way of "Greater Israel" aka "Lebensraum".

There was NO threat that required trump to act before requesting Congressional Authorization of Force or Declaration of War as our Constitution dictates.  He didn't want to go that route because there was no way to justify it and he knew even his own party would laugh at him.

60 days are up.

Regime change USA come November.  It's going to be "Wild".


18 different US intelligence agencies assessments declared there was no eminent threat of Iran developing a bomb.

Trump chose to believe Bibi and his Mossad handlers Kushner, Witkoff, and Lutnick.




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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #62 on: May 02, 2026, 09:00:02 PM »
There was no intelligible question.

I can't answer until I know what definition of "on the brink" you are using.

What I believe is there was no program in operation to construct a nuclear weapon and if they wanted to, they have no delivery vehicle that can reach the US.

What Iran wanted was an enrichment program that they could spool up to a bomb if war with Israel looked on the horizon.  By religious decree, they did not want to possess a bomb in storage like Israel does.  Israel has ~100 warheads.

Seems reasonable.  We've seen how countries that don't have a bomb get treated.  We would have never attacked a nuclear power like this.  You've taught everyone that lesson.  Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Syria.  Get a bomb before you get in the way of "Greater Israel" aka "Lebensraum".

There was NO threat that required trump to act before requesting Congressional Authorization of Force or Declaration of War as our Constitution dictates.  He didn't want to go that route because there was no way to justify it and he knew even his own party would laugh at him.

60 days are up.

Regime change USA come November.  It's going to be "Wild".


18 different US intelligence agencies assessments declared there was no eminent threat of Iran developing a bomb.

Trump chose to believe Bibi and his Mossad handlers Kushner, Witkoff, and Lutnick.

So why defy the IAEA over and over again?  Death to America?  Largest state sponsor of terrorism?  Holding their nukes for Israel?  Fruit cake alert.
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #63 on: May 02, 2026, 09:03:51 PM »
So why defy the IAEA over and over again?  Death to America?  Largest state sponsor of terrorism?  Holding their nukes for Israel?  Fruit cake alert.

Maybe true, but not EMENENT threats.

There was plenty of time to go to Congress and lay out the case for military action against Iran.
Show your evidence.
Prove the threat is high enough to spend US blood and treasure.

Then get a vote so EVERYBODY has to put their name in ink to take us to war.

If he had done that, I still might not would agree, but I couldn't say they didn't follow the Constitutional process.
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2026, 09:09:35 PM »

How about this solution.

What if Iran gave up it's enriched material, and agreed to never enrich above civilian needs. 
If they agreed to onsite inspectors at every production and storage facility and transportation is tracked via satellites and inspector escort between facilities.
If there were any nuke they had created behind our back, they are handed over to the IAEA for decommissioning.
Inspectors will be permanent and have complete access to everything, anywhere , anytime.

Would that be satisfactory?

And we make Israel submit to the exact same process.

Fair?
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #65 on: May 02, 2026, 09:15:35 PM »
Anyone ever think if they wanted a nuke.. China, Russia and North Korea would probably expedite the shipping to them, free of charge?

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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #66 on: May 02, 2026, 09:21:42 PM »
Anyone ever think if they wanted a nuke.. China, Russia and North Korea would probably expedite the shipping to them, free of charge?

Hmmmm I dunno.

I think they would help them build one.  I don't think they would give them one.

We are really good at tracking down the very mine nuclear material came from based on it's unique isotope fingerprint.

It's only like 95% accurate, but not worth the risk. 

Well, Norks might be that crazy, but not Russia, or China.  They are evil, but rational actors.




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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #67 on: May 02, 2026, 09:29:06 PM »
Anyone ever think if they wanted a nuke.. China, Russia and North Korea would probably expedite the shipping to them, free of charge?

Wow.  Is this really how you think nukes/the world works? 
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #68 on: May 02, 2026, 09:33:00 PM »
How about this solution.

What if Iran gave up it's enriched material, and agreed to never enrich above civilian needs. 
If they agreed to onsite inspectors at every production and storage facility and transportation is tracked via satellites and inspector escort between facilities.
If there were any nuke they had created behind our back, they are handed over to the IAEA for decommissioning.
Inspectors will be permanent and have complete access to everything, anywhere , anytime.

Would that be satisfactory?

And we make Israel submit to the exact same process.

Fair?

I don't want to get into the weeds, but you seem to be completely hung up on Israel here.  Why?  What have they done for America that you disapprove of?
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #69 on: May 02, 2026, 09:34:18 PM »
I'm not going to go there,

Why not?

Does that solution not seem equitable and more likely to lead to lasting peace?

If we want to keep nukes out of the Middle East, lets get them alll out.
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #70 on: May 02, 2026, 09:37:21 PM »
Why not?

Does that solution not seem equitable and more likely to lead to lasting peace?

If we want to keep nukes out of the Middle East, lets get them alll out.

I modified my response.  Regardless, why do you equate Israelies to terrorists?
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #71 on: May 02, 2026, 09:41:20 PM »
I modified my response.  Regardless, why do you equate Israelies to terrorists?


Who just executed a sneak assassination attack?

Who gave us the coordinates of a girl's elementary school to bomb?

The only reason we got dragged into this, is Mossad has Epstein blackmail on Trump.
The whole Epstein freakshow was a Mossad operation to get extortion material on influential Americans so they could exert control over our country to achieve their dream of "Greater Israel".
Maxwell's father was deep deep Mossad his whole life.  Daddy had his little girl setup a Mossad Honey-Pot operation.
The AIPAC Junta (which must be forced to register as an agent of a foreign government)  has been ruling us for decades through bribery and extortion.
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #72 on: May 02, 2026, 09:50:55 PM »

Who just executed a sneak assassination attack?

Who gave us the coordinates of a girl's elementary school to bomb?

The only reason we got dragged into this, is Mossad has Epstein blackmail on Trump.
The whole Epstein freakshow was a Mossad operation to get extortion material on influential Americans so they could exert control over our country to achieve their dream of "Greater Israel".
Maxwell's father was deep deep Mossad his whole life.  Daddy had his little girl setup a Mossad Honey-Pot operation.
The AIPAC Junta (which must be forced to register as an agent of a foreign government)  has been ruling us for decades through bribery and extortion.

You're a nut.  By the way, who was behind the Russian collusion hoax?   
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #73 on: May 02, 2026, 09:58:11 PM »
You're a nut.  By the way, who was behind the Russian collusion hoax?

Do you always try and divert away from an argument you are losing?



So, you tell me.

How do you see this crisis playing out between now and mid-terms?
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Re: OPEC changes or the beginning of the end
« Reply #74 on: May 02, 2026, 10:02:48 PM »
Do you always try and divert away from an argument you are losing?



So, you tell me.

How do you see this crisis playing out between now and mid-terms?

Run away?  I've wasted much more time than anticipated arguing against your antisemitism, which is what this all boils down to .. thought it was only TDS to begin with.  Just had to throw the Russian collusion hoax in, in hopes of exposing your TDS further.
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