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is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« on: May 28, 2026, 08:28:28 PM »
As far as AH goes?

On the AH website planes page, it lists earliest availability for the type as early war, but kills in it don't seem to correspond with "kills in early war fighters", or "kills of late war planes in early war fighters" achievements.

And since we (or at least me) are discussing the subject, what are the early war planes that actually count for early war kills?
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2026, 08:50:32 PM »
It was a perk plane in the EW arena when it was a thing. I seem to remember it was treated like the equivalent of a Tempest in the MA, like 50 perks or something.
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2026, 12:02:57 PM »
109g2 and 109f4 are early war planes..

Always considered the 190a5 early war as it's the earliest fw version in the game..

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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2026, 01:33:05 PM »
Early war planes in the game are 109e, a6m2, P40C, spit 1, hurr 1, c202 ( maybe). I believe thats it. The 190A5 is considered mid war, and ironically one of the best midwar planes in the game.
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2026, 09:26:01 PM »
Early war planes in the game are 109e, a6m2, P40C, spit 1, hurr 1, c202 ( maybe). I believe thats it. The 190A5 is considered mid war, and ironically one of the best midwar planes in the game.
The EW arena roster was much broader. 109F, Hurri 2C, SpitV, F4F, I-16, TBM(I remember one guy flying it like a fighter so it counts!) were in there. Maybe even the Brewster and P-39D, but I don't specifically remember them. I think even the Spit 9 was a perk plane too.   
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2026, 12:47:07 AM »
The old EW arena had following lineup:

C-47A
Ju 88
Lancaster III
TBM-3
Boston III
D3A1
Ju 87D-3
B5N2
B-25C
G4M1 Betty
Fi 156
He-111

Spitfire Mk IX
Bf 109F-4
Spitfire Mk V
C.202
Fw 190A-5
Hurricane Mk IIC
Bf 110C-4b
Spitfire Mk I
Bf 109E-4
Hurricane Mk I
F4F-4
A6M2
P-40E
P-40C
P-38G
P-39D
I-16
Brewster B-239
Sea Hurricane Mk I

Spitfire IX, Lancaster, P-38G and FW 190A-5 were perked
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2026, 05:55:27 AM »
The old EW arena had following lineup:

C-47A
Ju 88
Lancaster III
TBM-3
Boston III
D3A1
Ju 87D-3
B5N2
B-25C
G4M1 Betty
Fi 156
He-111

Spitfire Mk IX
Bf 109F-4
Spitfire Mk V
C.202
Fw 190A-5
Hurricane Mk IIC
Bf 110C-4b
Spitfire Mk I
Bf 109E-4
Hurricane Mk I
F4F-4
A6M2
P-40E
P-40C
P-38G
P-39D
I-16
Brewster B-239
Sea Hurricane Mk I

Spitfire IX, Lancaster, P-38G and FW 190A-5 were perked

That's more or less how I remember it.  Now to figure out which ones still work.

From that list, I have scored these kills so far:
109F-4  (1)
Hurri 2C  (1)
190A-5  (13)
Sea Hurri  (3)
Spit IX  (1)

For achievements, it says I have only 5 kills in EW planes and only 2 kills of LW planes.
Pretty sure the 109F kill counted (La7) and possibly the Hurri2C (190D-9) but the kill in the Hurri was last month and I could have sworn I had zero kills of LW planes until this week.

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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2026, 12:21:25 PM »
From that list, I have scored these kills so far:
109F-4  (1)
Hurri 2C  (1)
190A-5  (13)
Sea Hurri  (3)
Spit IX  (1)

For achievements, it says I have only 5 kills in EW planes and only 2 kills of LW planes.
Pretty sure the 109F kill counted (La7) and possibly the Hurri2C (190D-9) but the kill in the Hurri was last month and I could have sworn I had zero kills of LW planes until this week.

So the A-5 and IX don't count, because they were perked in the EW arena, leaving 109F-4, Hurr IIC and Sea Hurri - 1+1+3=5
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2026, 04:08:20 PM »
Your math adds up.  :D

Thanks  :cheers:
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2026, 06:15:04 PM »
Strange I dont recall the 109F being scored as early war in the achievements, nore the SpitV, if you are going by achieving the shoot down ### in early war planes achievement. It was only the very early fighters.
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2026, 06:39:32 PM »
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2026, 04:40:22 PM »
The old EW arena had following lineup:

Hi Lusche,

Do you have similar lineup for the old mid war arena?

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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2026, 10:36:20 PM »
The old MW arena had all of the EW planes plus:

A-20G
B-17G
B-24J
B-25H
B-26B
Il-2
Ju-87G-2
Ki-67
Tu-2S


A6M3
A6M5b
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 110G-2
C.205
F4U-1
F6F-5
FM2
Hurricane Mk IID
Ki-43-II
Ki-61
La-5FN
Me-410
Mosquito Mk VI
P-38J
P-39Q
P-40F
P-40N
P-47-D11
P-51B
SeaFire
Spitfire Mk VIII
Typhoon IB
Yak-7b
Yak-9T

Unfortunately I don't remember exactly the perked ones. I know the Typhoon was a perk plane in MW, and I think the Spitfire VIII was one, too.
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2026, 11:33:09 PM »
The old MW arena had all of the EW planes plus:

A-20G
B-17G
B-24J
B-25H
B-26B
Il-2
Ju-87G-2
Ki-67
Tu-2S


A6M3
A6M5b
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 110G-2
C.205
F4U-1
F6F-5
FM2
Hurricane Mk IID
Ki-43-II
Ki-61
La-5FN
Me-410
Mosquito Mk VI
P-38J
P-39Q
P-40F
P-40N
P-47-D11
P-51B
SeaFire
Spitfire Mk VIII
Typhoon IB
Yak-7b
Yak-9T

Unfortunately I don't remember exactly the perked ones. I know the Typhoon was a perk plane in MW, and I think the Spitfire VIII was one, too.

The Spit8 was definitely perked, and I think the P-51B was also.
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Re: is the 190A-5 considered an early war fighter?
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2026, 10:14:39 AM »
I don't remember the ME 410 being in the MW.
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