In my book, Number 3 is. Hey, you asked!
If nothing else, these two threads have illustrated that different people have different definitions of HOs. So probably not worth getting into such heated arguments about it. Truth, Justice, and The American Way will survive.
- oldman
I also did this... superimposed an o'clock graphic on top of MDStampf's plane in that 3rd pix. I even reduced it to be same size.
This is why I viewed it as crossing shot instead of sketchy front quarter, let alone being close to a ho.

For comparison, the first image I posted that MDStampf said is the kind of shot I whine about. This is the aspect - again, a crossing shot, not sketchy front quarter.

I'll find an example I called out...
And here's one from 5/25/26 when I called out Eagler for a sketchy front quarter.
