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Offline Animl-AW

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Recent Superball effect landings
« on: July 21, 2026, 11:49:00 AM »
Been flyin the D9 for about a year. I may not be the reconning force as a fighter, but’l’ve been landing sim planes for 37 yrs.

About the last 2 months, no matter how soft I land, it becomes a bouncing superball the entire length of the runway. I have to nose down into the runway to crash just so I don’t run out of runway.

This is newish and a few 190 flyers have noticed.

I can even hit the runway at a shallow glide-slope, flaps down, RPM crushed, 112 ias, no matter it just bounces, bad. I may accurately land with no damage to stop 2 of 10 approaches. Never had this issue before.

Don’t know if its a runway friction or wheel issue. But it SEEMS something has changed, at least for 190s IT SEEMS.

I have auto break set, so in the bounce it gets 86ed.

<scratches head>


Edit: note, I have not tried it with ither models yet, I will
« Last Edit: July 21, 2026, 11:54:43 AM by Animl-AW »
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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2026, 12:43:12 PM »
I dont fly the D9 a lot, but I dont remember having bouncing issues on landing ever.

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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2026, 01:33:00 PM »
I dont fly the D9 a lot, but I dont remember having bouncing issues on landing ever.

Me neither. Why I said something.

I know there was a reverse issue planes could not slow down, in fact increase speed as they ran off the other end. Kinda wondering if a tweak put it the other direction. I think 190s have a stiffer suspension in RL.
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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2026, 03:28:21 PM »
Wild guess on my part.  Check your throttle calibration.  Mine got off leaving more throttle pulled all the way back than I was use too. 

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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2026, 04:16:36 PM »
you won't grease a landing in a D9 but if you can flare very low and hold it off with precision, you can get a bit of a thumpy 3-point landing with no bounce. Took me a while to perfect it.
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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2026, 04:21:20 PM »
Guess carrier landings are out..

Ask JG11, I don't think they are having landing issues with their fw's..

Usually land wheels up as it is faster to get back up again..

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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2026, 05:10:51 PM »
you won't grease a landing in a D9 but if you can flare very low  :cool:and hold it off with precision, you can get a bit of a thumpy 3-point landing with no bounce. Took me a while to perfect it.

Yep, I know. But not this severe before. I mean the bounce is radical.  I’ve landed very smooth in the past. Of all things I got a compliment on landings, which is odd to begin with.

I always try for 3 point landing.

I remember in band camp AW, used to set a plane down on the hangar roof, no damage.

I dunno, something seems different.

I know I’m the most perfect human ever born, but maybe I’m doing something different. :D
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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2026, 05:13:33 PM »
Wild guess on my part.  Check your throttle calibration.  Mine got off leaving more throttle pulled all the way back than I was use too.

Not a bad idea.

Last time I even killed engine on landing, no joy.
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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2026, 09:44:00 PM »
are you trying to make sure the stall horn is going off as you touch down?
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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2026, 06:28:56 AM »
I retract the gear on the first bounce.

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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2026, 08:21:18 AM »
My point is, it always bounced, but not like this, its extreme, very high bounces
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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2026, 11:09:23 AM »

Don't you get less prop braking with the engine off?   

Also.....if you pulled it back with the minus sign in the interest of stretching some fuel, you need it full "plus sign" to get braking.

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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2026, 01:14:16 PM »
Don't you get less prop braking with the engine off?   

Also.....if you pulled it back with the minus sign in the interest of stretching some fuel, you need it full "plus sign" to get braking.

I was experimenting on a lame last minute idea.
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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2026, 03:27:31 PM »
I retract the gear on the first bounce.

I've never had the bouncing problem landing with the gear up...

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Re: Recent Superball effect landings
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2026, 02:20:33 PM »
Haven't noticed anything with the Dora, I have flown it a bit lately and no discernible change.  Most of the squad flies it all the time, nobody's commented.

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