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Offline Eagler

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AI vs AI
« on: July 22, 2026, 06:36:45 AM »
It's started..



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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2026, 01:02:40 PM »
When you add in the bizarre things the driverless taxi use you realize the real danger is a system so complicated that it is now impossible for a or a group of humans to fix or control.

Another simulation I do is heading in the same direction.  The program revisions are so complicated you have to now go through weeks of hot fixes, bigger redos.  Soon, this may all be done by AI, jobs will be lost and still will breakdown.

You have to think back to windows 3.1 and the few disk you bought to load it up.  Times have changed.

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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2026, 01:18:24 PM »
You can still run it today.

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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2026, 01:21:42 PM »
I was running thinnet at home on IPX when WfW came along. Changed everything. Far greater changes coming.
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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2026, 01:39:21 PM »

I predict that all that hardware will end up being sold "barely used" and it will affect the graphics cards guys badly.......unless they come up with something twice as fast as is currently out there.

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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2026, 01:43:04 PM »
I believe AI is being powered largely by GPUs but not graphics cards. These are being made specifically for AI. No need for video output.
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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2026, 01:50:47 PM »
Hoping there's a huge off switch somewhere someone can pull when it decides it needs electricity and water more than those useless humans do...

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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2026, 02:06:39 PM »
I believe AI is being powered largely by GPUs but not graphics cards. These are being made specifically for AI. No need for video output.

I read they are working on AI optimized, low power designs with built in cooling circuits.

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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2026, 04:09:01 PM »
So here we go, global warming caused by data centers.  A couple local counties are now stopping any new data centers.


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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2026, 05:05:58 PM »
I read they are working on AI optimized, low power designs with built in cooling circuits.

It better as it's unsustainable in it's current form..unless your commie chyna..and just tell the population to go f themselves...

Then again we are headed in that direction here in the ole land of the free and the brave..

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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2026, 05:27:08 PM »
So here we go, global warming caused by data centers.  A couple local counties are now stopping any new data centers.

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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2026, 09:58:13 PM »
People are right to be leery of AI. Aside from machines declaring war against humanity the potential for societal upheaval is very real and the changes it could bring unknown.

But it is coming.
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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2026, 10:18:40 PM »
People are right to be leery of AI. Aside from machines declaring war against humanity the potential for societal upheaval is very real and the changes it could bring unknown.

But it is coming.

Oh, it is coming.

I lose patients with some because the underlying, but unstated argument is, "so let's just stop and roll the world back to before AI and pretend it didn't happen."
They don't state it, because it would be obvious when voice that it is a fantasy.  I get it.  A lot of people are afraid for their jobs.  And rightfully so.  All the more reason to not waste energy on fruitless noise.  We need to prepare our economy and society.

AI is going to happen.  Period.  Full stop.

The trick is, we need to make sure it is done well.

You need proper zoning laws.  you need proper offsets.  Treat it like you would any heavy industry.

Power system needs to be expanded.  AI companies should contribute a larger share in communities they wish to have the privilege to be sited in.  A data center should LOWER the power cost of local customers.  If they don't like it, they can site elsewhere.

We need more power production just like we need refining.  Obviously we need to grow up and start building out nuclear as a higher percentage of our supply.

But there is no stopping AI.  The clocks will not wind backwards.  We will not go back to 8-track tapes.  You will not be young again.

And if extremists succeeded in crippling our native AI industry, The Chinese will gladly take the economic high ground for the next 100 years.

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Re: AI vs AI
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2026, 11:41:54 PM »
How can AI make the world better?

Can a machine program solve world hunger?  poverty?  disease?  illiteracy?  education?  racism?  sexism?  intolerance of beliefs?  war?

The recklessness of AI companies demanding more energy needs to power AI data centers does not help non-industrialized parts of the world.  It becomes a strain on the local industrialized area affected.

Humans can solve the problems of the world.  A fast-thinking AI program can assist the computations of mathematical data for the humans in decision making process.

Hunger, poverty, homelessness, and education can be systematically stamped out through cooperation of all countries working together and the understanding of a monetary system is unnecessary.  There is plenty of resources to build a better tomorrow.  It will take sacrifice of the concept of wealth and status of the governments and captains of industry.

Society must change to each individual has a specific place to contribute for the entire good of the society.  Everything is provided to the individual.  It's up to the individual to make a better life through the contributions provided by the society.

Individuals who have a passion for cooking can work in restaurants and receive the same accommodations as individuals who build construction, transport material, become doctors, pilot aircraft, be administrators, etc... This will require a change in education and vocation through testing and individual desires.

AI can assist but must be not placed in authority over humans.

When humans can live and work together for a common good, anything can be achieved.  It will require a loss of nationalism.  Nation states are going to be no longer necessary and be outdated like the kingdoms and empires before. 

Administrative zones will be the future.  Maybe, no need for geographical placing.  They can function through the different segments of society.  The future is ongoing.  It doesn't have to be dystopian.

Power, greed, corruption, and coveting your neighbor is keeping the world hostage.  These chains need to be broke.

Can AI do that?  All AI will do is give the powerful a new tool and weapon to maintain power and find ways to gain more power.  The powerful ride on the backs of the oppressed and poor.  For every rich and powerful individual, how many must suffer in poverty?

When AI can solve these issues, then I will become a believer.  I'm still a skeptic.

 
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