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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2026, 02:55:55 PM »
it's not that personal, the intent is to put one entire side at a disadvantage to negate the major advantage in numbers they have. I see it kind of as a for the good of all thing.

on the other hand, i do agree sometimes the punishment is so harsh that it is no longer worth playing. This causes players to log off. That is not ideal.

of course if people are getting constantly horded 5-1 by ponies they are gonna log also.

and since people would revolt if you forced team balancing, options are kind of limited.

there needs to be some compromises i think. Ideally something that doesnt leave players feeling they have to log off.
maybe when eny kicks in, a pop up that gives some free perk to anyone willing to jump sides.

It's not personal - but it affects me personally. I don't care what others are doing and it's not my fault that the side I'm on has numbers.

It's a lot to ask to have a paying player taking a penalty for someone elses benefit. So they can have a better game experience. I don't care what the intent is, the result is that I am personally getting shafted so someone else can have a better time.

I get slaughtered over and over flying a crap plane by others flying LA7s because they need to have a leg up?

I sit in the tower. I fly the crap planes, then I log. And it happens every single night.



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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2026, 02:56:38 PM »
ENY does its job, if I wake up early and jump on the game im fighting alone or with 1 other person against 13+ bish,  they are all ENY gimped and unable to take anything they know how to fly while im flying free Tempests.

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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2026, 02:58:58 PM »
Why would you have to have forced side balancing if ENY was removed?
Because people would complain.

ENY does not make people change sides  that I've ever seen. Only a very small percentage of players have auto-side switching enabled and those are the only people I ever see changing sides.

Most people sit in the tower waiting for ENY to change, or they will fly a crap plane that they don't want to fly or they will log before they will switch sides.
I typically switch to the low #s, but the issue with that is the switch timer far outlasts how often a side numbers can fluctuate, or a fight dies or the front moves. More enemies and cheap jets, what's not to love? There are downsides to the side switching option. Like I said, personally, I don't like it, nor do I use it.

Again, I'm not sure what sort of "crap planes" you're referring to, but unless ENY is sticking you in 30+ ENY planes, the majority in the 15-25 range are just fine.
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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2026, 03:13:26 PM »
Part of my issue is also when people tell me that other planes are not so bad, or to "just learn to fly xxx". Like shaming me or dismissing a very legitimate point regarding my game experience.
 
I do fly other planes. A lot.




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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2026, 03:23:47 PM »
I'm not shaming anyone. You are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine.

The K4's ENY is 20 and is one of the best planes in the game. If you don't like it, that is just fine, but that doesn't mean it is "crap".
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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2026, 04:44:13 PM »
Not enough ammo in the k4 for most folks..

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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2026, 01:53:40 PM »
Part of my issue is also when people tell me that other planes are not so bad, or to "just learn to fly xxx". Like shaming me or dismissing a very legitimate point regarding my game experience.
 
I do fly other planes. A lot.

come to Monday Night Madness in the SEA2 on Monday Nights. it will make you a better pilot and you'll have lots of fun. no perked planes. even jets on occasion. most of the crew in there will happily teach you and we use a targeting computer to help you with your aim. then when you get a crappy plane, you'll be deadly in it. Eagler flys a BF109F-4 most of the time. even though he wont admit to it, hes a terrorist in it. Horrido in his BF110. same thing, hes the nicest terrorist you'll ever meet, but he's very good in it. think about it?!! you're always welcome!

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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2026, 05:28:36 PM »
I'm not shaming anyone. You are entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine.

The K4's ENY is 20 and is one of the best planes in the game. If you don't like it, that is just fine, but that doesn't mean it is "crap".


I believe the K4s eny is 15.


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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2026, 05:29:48 PM »
Not enough ammo in the k4 for most folks..

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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2026, 06:14:05 PM »

I believe the K4s eny is 15.

Correct.

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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2026, 08:13:09 AM »
A. Trigger discipline
B. Take a G14 with gondies to feel the power between your legs

I find the g2 with gonds the best 109 configuration..better than the g6 or g14 w/gonds..the rate of fire seems better in the g2..

The k4 is when there's a crowd and you need the speed... :airplane:

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« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2026, 12:17:28 PM »
The other thread was locked for rule #3, so I'll put it where it should have gone, which is here, I guess.

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Re: Fugitive - player ethos
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2026, 12:29:45 PM »
The other thread was locked for rule #3, so I'll put it where it should have gone, which is here, I guess.

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Look at this screenshot.  Tell me what you infer from it.  Then I'll point out what you so conveniently overlook. Then someone will come to your defense and I'll have a nice quote from the man in response.



I'll be the dumb one, maybe just explain the issue? Bish are winning, bish have a ton of guys in flight, bish have eny, what am i missing?
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Re: Fugitive - player ethos
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2026, 12:32:56 PM »
I'll be the dumb one, maybe just explain the issue? Bish are winning, bish have a ton of guys in flight, bish have eny, what am i missing?

I'll suggest going back to the very first post in this thread and give it some more thought. 

protip: It's only indirectly related to ENY
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Re: player ethos in the bucket
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2026, 12:33:40 PM »
I'm not understanding that either, Shane,

One thing that I'm confused about is why the Inflight, AFK and Waiting numbers don't add up to the totals logged in and the percentage "non AFK"
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