player ethos in the bucket

[Shane]

The quality of ethos on display by long time players is... kind of, well, not unexpected and quite on brand these days.

There's a nice list of exploits and abuses by players - why? I dunno, but let's take a look at one that's not quite either.

I can recall the day when 2 sides would work to stop a reset, instead of one side helping the bigger side.

This is a common pattern in the mornings, knits and rooks low numbers against the bish swarmbois, and knits chose to still hit on rooks?  Low class.

I don't mind the .rpt abuse because calling out this low class play is worth knowing I made a painful point to these players. 

But anyway, knits.. really hitting 80 (after already taking 2-3 other undefended bases) while bish hit 79?  Every morning has been like this - one reason why I went rook from knits.

Seems like some knits skwads are just bish auxillary. 23-6 so much fun.

ENY cannot fix or impact this because ethos cannot be hardcoded.

[popeye]

Interesting new statistics for AFK players.  I wonder if the AFK player's callsign turns red in the radio list.

[Sully]

I will poke and stir. Usually never in the mornings though. Always in hopes of making something happen Shane <S>. Might feel some despair if the numbers are up against me but then just use some strategies to get to target. Those numbers are extremely low to embark on a great bish crusade from any pov it's discouraging

[Animl-AW]

I don’t play day time
But at primetime Bish and Rooks tend to act as one country, almost daily, gang banging the snot out of knits, again almost daily, not one fight on the Bish Rook front. I’ve come to call them Rish.

We got so sick of it, especially a bish sqd who dump 2 bars on a near undefended bases of maybe 2-5.

So we left that front to give them nothing to shoot and put our forces on rooks. So no, we are nit going to split our forces every single night to be totally pummeled on both fronts.

So while another bish sqd milkruns in the morning I don’t want to hear it with what happens at primetime.

The harm this causes the game is big and knits just log off. They log in, look at map and log off.  THEY DO NOT CARE. This is why sqd stats matter not.

All Rish knows us full country horde gang bangs. “everyone gets their turn” ya those sides get it once every two weeks to a month and cry when they swallow their own meds. Again, not a singke fighgt on bish-rook front.

With low numbers it’s nothing but destructive, period.

You’re not doing any different with mornings as primetime. Ya knits get burned out and return favors. Get a kleenex

The perfect example why 2 countries would never work. Bush and rooks would just go to one side as Rish

<shrug>

[Shane]

I don’t play day time
But at primetime Bish and Rooks tend to act as one country, almost daily, gang banging the snot out of knits, again almost daily, not one fight on the Bish Rook front. I’ve come to call them Rish.

We got so sick of it, especially a bish sqd who dump 2 bars on a near undefended bases of maybe 2-5.

So we left that front to give them nothing to shoot and put our forces on rooks. So no, we are nit going to split our forces every single night to be totally pummeled on both fronts.

So while another bish sqd milkruns in the morning I don’t want to hear it with what happens at primetime.

The harm this causes the game is big and knits just log off. They log in, look at map and log off.  THEY DO NOT CARE. This is why sqd stats matter not.

All Rish knows us full country horde gang bangs. “everyone gets their turn” ya those sides get it once every two weeks to a month and cry when they swallow their own meds. Again, not a singke fighgt on bish-rook front.

With low numbers it’s nothing but destructive, period.

You’re not doing any different with mornings as primetime. Ya knits get burned out and return favors. Get a kleenex

The perfect example why 2 countries would never work. Bush and rooks would just go to one side as Rish

<shrug>

Could this have anything to do with rooks trying to take back bases that knits took earlier in the morning? You know, to prevent an evening knit win?

What will this look like in 8 hrs?    Or have bish already figured out how to game the afk eny update? 

[Shane]

Yep, bish already learned gaming the afk eny update.   Saw B24's being used for the win...  what's the eny on those?  Oh... 20


AFK should not earn war win perks, maybe? Being AFK and all, right?

[Animl-AW]

Could this have anything to do with rooks trying to take back bases that knits took earlier in the morning? You know, to prevent an evening knit win?

What will this look like in 8 hrs?    Or have bish already figured out how to game the afk eny update? 

Both can be true.

 Absolutely day milk running sets the pace for primetime. So it depends how you squint your eye each day/night

However EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND ( or 7 of 10)  is now every day bish and rooks work as one country with zero fights between them to gang knits. If cannit be that iften without some form if coordination, hence Rish.

At least one honorable sqd that switches sudes attempt to break that into a 3 front war. Kudos to them.

I have zero remorse bashing them on 200 as I watch 10-15 log because of it. So it’s not all about the hard fight, its watching them shove players to log off. They destroy numbers. And again, they do not care as ling as they don’t scratch their fingernail polish to roll almost undefended bases at prime time. I lost respect fir these antics. Then they get mouthy with air inflated balloon chest and rub it in.

I’m not afraid of a hard fight, its the destruction to the game Rish cause. They think its funny. Then whine like children here about liw numbers. Re-read that to ket it sink in.

[-gg-]

easy to solve the afk ENY exploit. Just remove EVY until more than 100 players are online.

[Animl-AW]

Can’t say it was an exploit. Not enough proof

However
Bish 29
Knits 18
Rooks 14

Knits got ENY

[Shane]

easy to solve the afk ENY exploit. Just remove EVY until more than 100 players are online.

meh, it's not so much about that as much as not rewarding those afk players with war win perks when they were... afk...

[oTRALFZo]

Trying to keep bases with the AM swarm of flies is all about impossible with the 25 bish vs 4 or 5 nits on the roster. you have just about 2-3 main choices if you ever log on as a nit/rook in the early AM
1) Fly fighter mode and get a million kills. Disregard any bases lost or what the map is doing. These are  very easy kills and gratifying if your into that thing.
2) Grab bases on the other less busy front. YES to some its boring but we do have those players that like taking bases
3) Fly for an hour and half in buffs to attack strats.

It drives me nuts too as a nit. I have logged on a few times early morning with the typical scenario: 3 nits on- 1 is on a long climb in buffs and the other 2 on the rook front. I dont agree with it but I got to understand it.

[Animl-AW]

Sad part. HT is doing his best to create fairness across the board. He’s trying to work with players to do so.

Some just make it harder for him to help us.

[toasted]

meh, it's not so much about that as much as not rewarding those afk players with war win perks when they were... afk...

I feel like this is a minor issue at this point. I'm pretty sure most everyone has plenty of spare perk points. Does it really effect anything if a few afk players get more? I dont feel like anyone really uses all the points they have.
Not trying to be contrarian, just curious.Do a couple guys getting some undeserved perks effect your game, or did they have plenty of perks anyway. I just think unless perkies become rare or more useful this is a small problem.

on the other hand, maybe we will get a perk reset and a change in how perks are used then i could see this being an important distinction.

id almost make the argument that even afk or players who logged off probably contributed to that victory at some point.

[Shane]

I feel like this is a minor issue at this point. I'm pretty sure most everyone has plenty of spare perk points. Does it really effect anything if a few afk players get more? I dont feel like anyone really uses all the points they have.
Not trying to be contrarian, just curious.Do a couple guys getting some undeserved perks effect your game, or did they have plenty of perks anyway. I just think unless perkies become rare or more useful this is a small problem.

on the other hand, maybe we will get a perk reset and a change in how perks are used then i could see this being an important distinction.

id almost make the argument that even afk or players who logged off probably contributed to that victory at some point.

Many of those morning players only play mornings into maybe lunch time and it's hard to earn perks when you're always under eny... so, yeah, winning the war perks are helpful to some.   

It's even more difficult for many to earn perks when numbers are more balanced because they're not used to dealing with that.

Personally, I'd rather see ENY values given an overhaul.

[toasted]

Many of those morning players only play mornings into maybe lunch time and it's hard to earn perks when you're always under eny... so, yeah, winning the war perks are helpful to some.   

It's even more difficult for many to earn perks when numbers are more balanced because they're not used to dealing with that.

Personally, I'd rather see ENY values given an overhaul.

Fair enough. I would agree on ENY values getting an overhaul. we all know the yak-3 isn't 18 eny.