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Offline SAM13

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Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« on: September 04, 2026, 06:18:01 PM »
Requesting a trainer to teach me the ins and outs of American Fighters. I've watched video after video on Youtube, the issue is they don't really seem to help as the combat in the MA isn't axis vs. allies and the planes aren't really flown they way they historically would have.

P-51B/D (purely fighter w/drop tanks)
P47 M/N (fighter and JABO)
F4U 1A/D (Fighter and possibly JABO)
(Open to the F6 just need something I can launch from a CV and fight/JABO in)
Would be open to the P38 but I don't use VR so being able to tell what I have selected for #2 is a PITA...

I am a retired Veteran so my schedule is very flexible.

In game call sign "Crow"

email: sam.sartain@gmail.com

Thank you
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Offline The Fugitive

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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2026, 06:27:15 PM »
Im sure Sik1 will pop in soon enough, hes a training and a good guy.

As for learning to fight in the game there are things you can check out for that too. In my signature below there is a link to my youtube channel. All info and fights are from the game and game only. A lot of them I point out tips and tricks that are used in the fights and flights for shooting, bombing and GVs.

Also below, in the signature is a link to my help page. Lots of great information there too. I just updated it with a few helpful link just after the opening paragraph. Those link take you to more info on the planes and how to fight with them and against them, turn info that shows you how much tighter one or more planes can turn in an 8 second turn, as well as a link that shows you more plane comparison for climb, speed, and lethality.

Check them out!  <S>

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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2026, 09:37:30 PM »
Crow, I would be happy to work with you.

I'm mainly fighter tactics but can help with jabo, and most other AH related items.

Evenings or weekends usually works best. I'm West Coast, and not usually available before 7pm weeknights. Let me know what days and times are best for you, and I'm sure we can find a time to work together.
 
As Fugi said there is a lot of good information on his site, I also like Air Combat Tutorial Library; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbyGOd6NwME&list=PLnyigzFtHeNr9zTkpxyD0ksFD3CwLa2UE and here, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnyigzFtHeNo8h6EJLrer4zIDfCHCo8XY There are other worthwhile videos on their site but these two playlists plus what you can find on Fugi's site should give you plenty of reading material.

You can contact me directly via PM here on the boards.

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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2026, 11:27:18 PM »
Just another vid
Dogfighting & Basic Fighter Maneuvers (BFM) 1 vs. 1 Similar Aircraft (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkBOX0_1Idc
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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2026, 01:16:22 AM »
Feel free to ask for the lessons in Jug-Fu.
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Offline SAM13

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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2026, 04:06:54 AM »
I also like Air Combat Tutorial Library

I've watched that series a dozen times (and enjoy it). I will put it on my TV and watch it when I am doing long bomber runs. The issue is the tricks with planes is where I am running into trouble. A while back I was searching videos on the forums and came across an old video of SHawk fighting 1 on 1 in P51Ds and I was watching with his maneuvers and turns he was using his flaps on and off rapidly. Unfortunately, I'm more of a hands on learner when it comes to stuff like this.
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Offline SAM13

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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2026, 04:13:10 AM »
Just another vid
Dogfighting & Basic Fighter Maneuvers (BFM) 1 vs. 1 Similar Aircraft (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkBOX0_1Idc

This is good stuff, he does a very good series. Unfortunately, I really miss Soda's pages. The issue I'm running into the most is I don't know the "tricks" like flaps, rudder, dropping landing gear, fuel tank selection, etc.
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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2026, 08:04:29 AM »
This is good stuff, he does a very good series. Unfortunately, I really miss Soda's pages. The issue I'm running into the most is I don't know the "tricks" like flaps, rudder, dropping landing gear, fuel tank selection, etc.

Your in luck, I just finished rebuilding Soda's Pages!

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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2026, 10:31:26 AM »
This is good stuff, he does a very good series. Unfortunately, I really miss Soda's pages. The issue I'm running into the most is I don't know the "tricks" like flaps, rudder, dropping landing gear, fuel tank selection, etc.

You should get with S1k1, excellent trainer.
Flaps will vary depending on AC, in short use them sparingly. He’s informed on these things.
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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2026, 11:04:59 AM »
Sam, you should consider flying in the upcoming scenario. There are D-11 Jugs, and Bravo Ponies escorting B-24's. If you don't know scenarios are historically based set ups. You can read about the upcoming scenario here: http://www.ahevents.net/index.php/events/scenarios/current-or-next-scenario

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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2026, 12:24:43 PM »
This is good stuff, he does a very good series. Unfortunately, I really miss Soda's pages. The issue I'm running into the most is I don't know the "tricks" like flaps, rudder, dropping landing gear, fuel tank selection, etc.


For a lot of what you're looking for (and this applies to all rides, really, not just US) in regard to using flaps and rudder can be learned by 1v1 with someone.

Fuel varies across the rides, but if you do those 1v1 with 50% fuel, you'll be able to figure what initial loadout works for your mission. I'm fairly certain the auto fuel burn covers what a lot of people did manually in wayback times, like burning off the aux tail in the pony, or lowering one of the wing tanks on a hog to a certain level.

Ord all depends on your mission and some loadouts, like rocket rails affect "fighting" performance.

Dropping landing gear is a desperation measure and not limited to f4u's, and again, doing those 1v1's will help you figure out when to do it. 

Once you know your ride's envelope, possibilities open up.

Dive bombing just takes practice.

 
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Offline hazmatt

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Re: Requesting a Trainer (American Fighter Tactics)
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2026, 01:36:39 PM »

P-51B/D (purely fighter w/drop tanks)
P47 M/N (fighter and JABO)
F4U 1A/D (Fighter and possibly JABO)


Couple of notes on these.
Unless the flight model has changed the you have to be very careful about getting the 51B into a spin when you're slow slow with flaps out where the 51D is more forgiving.

Lots of good jug drivers: LilMak, The Stig, Yucca, Hollywood or others to help you out, the list that seem to like big jugs is long.
The P47N is an absolute pig with a full load of ord. If I saw an enemy approaching I would dump the ords ASAP.

On the F4U. I noticed that with VR the birdcage doesn't matter as much and the things to be aware is that they will float with the flaps out. You really can do some stuff in these that p-factor and engine torque would probably make impossible IRL. The other thing that takes a little getting used to and bothered me when I first started flying them is sometimes (it may be certain models I don't recall) have a little bit of a yawing motion that really doesn't affect the performance if you can learn to ignore it. One move that works real well in my experience on these is if you can your slow an you can get inverted above your enemy with full flaps out it's usually over for them.

I know it's not any detailed advice but I thought there might be some useful points.