Just gonna drop this here...

[Animl-AW]

That is absolutely 100% false. Gang bangs are sustained, sought out, and harder to push back against because of AWACS.

Bot every subject is Dar, or maps, or perk specific planes.

We can get to dar for the 30th in time. Dar us not even a part of thus specific equation

No offense intended

[LilMak]

Bot every subject is Dar, or maps, or perk specific planes.

We can get to dar for the 30th in time. Dar us not even a part of thus specific equation

No offense intended

My apologies, I thought the thread was about GB. How about this…

On this issue of whether a base is capturable, what are the potential downsides to it? I’ll go first.

It’s possible that our problem has little to do with winning the war so much as an excuse to GB. If you take away the excuse, does it have the desired effect on the game play? It appears from my POV that human nature (path of least resistance/laziness) is influencing the fights more than ever. Specifically two teams beating up on a third. The “win the war” metric has little to do with that. Which is why you have one team backed in a corner with only a couple bases and the other two continuing to pound them into logging off. I don’t think the capturable bases really changes the metric.

The only thing that works is to make things easier for the defending team. Something similar to localization of ENY might work. But, since ENY is evil, how about we just shut off a country’s ability to spawn GVs with troops therefore making C-47s the only way to take?

It seems the percentage of ownership before anything kicks in would have to be pretty severe to prevent the team that is beat back from just capturing a base or two. Therefore not really fixing the problem at all for 70-80% of the time. The GB continues but the map doesn’t change.

I would argue that the GB is not the problem. Teams need numbers to take bases. It’s been built into the game for eons. What needs to happen is people need to be encouraged to defend not discouraging attack. We have a simple setting that can help with zero code required. Make it more encouraging to defend and the defense will develop. Discouraging offense just moves the GB to different chess pieces.

[Animl-AW]

I prolly poorly worded that.

[hazmatt]

I remember c47s used to be used to sneak bases but as I recall the AWACS can even see C47s on the ground making them useless.

I also seem to recall that everybody started flying with their maps open as you could get more important data from the map then looking out of the cockpit.

Overall I think it really did change the game play.

[Animl-AW]

I remember c47s used to be used to sneak bases but as I recall the AWACS can even see C47s on the ground making them useless.

Not true

[Animl-AW]

Personally, I see mixing Dar with ENY is apples and oranges.

People who lobby some things will find 1000 ways to make the same point in every subject possible.

IMO, Dar has zero to do with unbalanced sides.

However, it shows how the game is being played and encourage or discourage to throw your hat in the ring when they log in.

I know when I see another nightly Knit GB I prefer not to. Enthusiasm hits rock bottom. NIGHTLY is disgusting BS game-play. Period. L

A few of our guys look, see it, log off. This just aids the GB even more, with a byproduct of great harm to numbers too. Getting numbers up claim is null. So they should stop saying they’re trying. It’s an oxymoron. Both sides of the mouth.

Point being no change in dar will solve that except no dar. Which would be stupid.
I prefer Dot Dar as compromise.

But that will have little effect on side balancing or GB limits.

Main point full country horde gang bangs are WAY out of control and damaging

I don’t listen to doers either deny it or excuse it away, insulting intelligence.
A bank robber never admits he’s guilty.

The last 2+ months, my interest has plummeted for this exact reason. Constant full country GBs, not Dar.

[Randy1]

What is a GB'er?

[Animl-AW]

What is a GB'er?

Gang Bangers

[Randy1]

The real loser when one country get's gang banged by the other two to extreme is the attacked country.   Usually it means the GB country has little way out.  That is because the attacking country can dominate a single base aattack.

Limit base loses to say 55%.  Drop ENY restrictions to countries with 55% or less remaining bases.

[Animl-AW]

Call it paranoia, I’m starting to think there is coordination between a cpl sqds of those two  countries. it’s appearing to be too uniform.

[~ZoSo~]

And none of this even matters if you don’t show up. There is always something else to do with your time. It’s all fun and games until it’s not. A lot of talk with no solutions.

[Animl-AW]

And none of this even matters if you don’t show up. There is always something else to do with your time. It’s all fun and games until it’s not. A lot of talk with no solutions.

There’s a solution, the doers want it swept under the rug to minimize it so they retain SOP. 

[oTRALFZo]

The war never ends in AH. We will always have a new map and battles raging on.

The healthy approach to this game is to just go with the flow. Bish/Nits horde Rooks, Rooks/Nits horde Bish I mean big deal. 40 guys want to hit a undefended base and have fun doing it then so be it. I have been on the end of the horde and yes, it is sometimes fun. My rush comes from fighting the hell out the enemy and either suppressing the horde or capturing their field. When its too easy, its not as much fun.
This game does depend heavily on participation from many. Its much harder to win fights/grab fields when you try with only 1 or 2 guys unless your lucky.

Best cure to prevent hording is to defend by hording. Most of those guys will end up logging when the opposition gets too tough. Yes its frustrating when you are the only defender or cant find anyone to join you in the attack but you have to make the most of it.

[Animl-AW]

I think it looks different when ya fly every night, or when you blow off  RL plans to have a good time on weekends just to find every night of it is a GB

All depends how one squints their eyes.

Watching players log off during it speaks for itself. I don’t need to say anything. I was just lookin for a solution.
<shrug>

I’m losing interest. That has its own life

[oTRALFZo]

I think it looks different when ya fly every night, or when you blow off  RL plans to have a good time on weekends just to find every night of it is a GB

All depends how one squints their eyes.

Watching players log off during it speaks for itself. I don’t need to say anything. I was just lookin for a solution.
<shrug>

I’m losing interest. That has its own life

I get the occasional urge to log on early mornings when the odds are 28 vs 5 vs 3. I have to wipe the idea out of my head that I will stop the horde myself. Never mind the map, I just look to kill a million of them as many times possible.

These folks flying in day in, day out with the same ol, same ol hording gives me the perception that they are not having fun but just do what they do to grief everyone. Shame we cant get 10 more each day on each side to put up resistence.