Selective Hypocrisy abusing .rpt

[haggerty]

Its good that you see when you are losing your cool now, just need to get you to see that you are also the instigator.  Baby steps.  You are a broken record with the "I'm done talking, leave me alone", then going right back to instigating the same people within the hour or next day.

[nrshida]

The claim that I instigate this daily is not accurate.

To think there was a time when I used to help people automatically before I was exposed to the lowest dregs of odious f3ck3rs that this sort of game tends to attract. No this is a deliberate action as I've already spoken up for you on two previous occasions, once even about the particular squad you've been tangling with for what must be around two-years now, gauging when I stopped flying MA (and I deduce you're talking about, haven't watched the movie yet). Because I think you're a fundamentally good person (or we wouldn't be having this conversation) to whom some evidently traumatic things have happened.

That squad you're eluding to is as Haggerty describes yes and no. Yes they're just generally trying to have fun flying together. They seem to latterly simply emulate the J0ker's and are very gangy and mob-like in disposition. One of them is a particularly mouthy little freak, especially in the context of the old-fashioned AH tradition of not shooting your mouth of if you can't fly very well.

I've tangled verbally with elements of them too and when I determined the free-range rude I wreaked my terrible 30-mm lobbing revenge to my own satisfaction. Once killing three of them in 90-seconds. They didn't have much to say after that. That's perhaps a bit caveman-like but does explain why most of them fly together. There's also a few decent fellows in that squad, one particularly of good character. If you leave only confrontation as the option of course they're going to unite against a common threat so that amounts to nothing.

I can understand objecting ethically to a thing but you must go further and know it is a fruitless path to try and discourage people acting a certain way which is rewarding. You must accept the one thing you can change is yourself. It's hard for me to reason that there isn't some reward or motivation for you to continue a fruitless conflict with them, I don't know what that is - it's for you to reflect on. But is it healthy is my question to you?

A wise man (might have been Groucho Marx) once said ranting on 200 to the same people weak after week to no result is like drinking poison and expecting the other fellows to get sick. I don't propose an apology, a reconciliation or any discussion at all actually. Just disengage for your own wellbeing.

[99_capera]

Its good that you see when you are losing your cool now, just need to get you to see that you are also the instigator.  Baby steps.  You are a broken record with the "I'm done talking, leave me alone", then going right back to instigating the same people within the hour or next day.

You call me the instigator, yet the very next time we were in the arena, I said absolutely nothing to you, and you still went out of your way to interfere with what I was doing. You were 7 sectors away from CV11, that I sailed there earlier that day.....and what did you do for the next hour? You repeatedly BUMPED me out of command. You did the same thing to me the other day too.

So tell me again, Haggerty......who needs to see that he is the instigator?

Seems to me, if you're going to talk about "baby steps," start by looking hard at your own behavior in theatre before coming on these forums and trying to act like I am the problem. At least I was man enough to own my actions.....Are you man enough to own yours?

[haggerty]

After 10 years of your nonsense I give it back.  Even though I never said anything to you, just removed your name from a ship and never moved it.  Making sure Rooks can use it when you are afk.  You decided to say I would never be able to control a CV last week everytime you disagree with what Rooks are doing with it.  I wanted to test to see if you passed me in rank.  Nothing about taking your name off the boat impacted anything.  You still decided to chase me around the map to talk on local and also tune directly to me for 2 hours to cry about it.

[oTRALFZo]

You call me the instigator, yet the very next time we were in the arena, I said absolutely nothing to you,

Apologies to my squad mates for even getting into this.

CAP,
I flew  a 262 looking for bombers and when I saw your 17s at 30k, I decided not to waste my time  climbing ( I was at around 11k) so I peeled off and landed. You then went crazy on 200 on why I didn't engage you and would not shut up about it.

I upped bombers after seeing the town getting hit and went to the most natural point site that a CV  would be and proceeded to sink  it and again...you went crazy on 200 saying I cheated, had shades.

Another time you had hidden your M3 and we had about 4 guys looking for you and would not shut up on 200 only to berrate us that we cheated and condone cheating  when we found you.

You definately appear that you are a wanna-be bully and loose your mind if proven wrong. Its very obvious that you log on with every agenda NOT to have fun and you downward spiral in just being miserable. This game should be fun and and a part time escape from regular life so my best advise is to just try to have fun doing it. Most of the greats playing this game are respected and do so for not taking this game so seriously

[99_capera]

Apologies to my squad mates for even getting into this.

CAP,
I flew  a 262 looking for bombers and when I saw your 17s at 30k, I decided not to waste my time  climbing ( I was at around 11k) so I peeled off and landed. You then went crazy on 200 on why I didn't engage you and would not shut up about it.

I upped bombers after seeing the town getting hit and went to the most natural point site that a CV  would be and proceeded to sink  it and again...you went crazy on 200 saying I cheated, had shades.

Another time you had hidden your M3 and we had about 4 guys looking for you and would not shut up on 200 only to berrate us that we cheated and condone cheating  when we found you.

You definately appear that you are a wanna-be bully and loose your mind if proven wrong. Its very obvious that you log on with every agenda NOT to have fun and you downward spiral in just being miserable. This game should be fun and and a part time escape from regular life so my best advise is to just try to have fun doing it. Most of the greats playing this game are respected and do so for not taking this game so seriously

Look, I've acknowledged my past behavior, taken responsibility, and worked to correct it. I'm here to play the game and move forward without drama.

Here is Haggerty in this thread, acting innocent, insinuating that I constantly provoke people and more or less get what I deserve. Yet last night, I logged in, said nothing to him, and he spent nearly an hour repeatedly bumping me off the CV for no good reason. That sounds like deliberate instigation to me.

Same with Oldwolf posting audio of me losing my temper. There's no mention of what he and members of Tropical Thunder were saying and doing beforehand. Provoke, wait for a reaction, record it, and then present it without context. I'd be interested to see that full context, but it wouldn't fit the angle he's pushing, would it?

Accountability works both ways. I've owned my part, worked on my behavior, and moved forward. If everyone truly wants the drama to stop, then it's time others held themselves to the same standard they expect from me.

[hazmatt]

I think a 2 week mute on everybody involved would have fixed it? Where are the mods when you need them? 

[Dadtallica]

You’re just a bunch of closet sadists. None of you needs to be on that channel talking to each other, but you do it because you need it and because you crave it.

Nobody has to tune to 200

[haggerty]

Lately it hasn't even been 200, he just uses vox now and directly tunes to you.  Haven't said a word to him in weeks, but that doesn't stop the crying and nagging.  I just ignore it and it makes it worse.  Either way im not really bothered by it, its half the entertainment of the game now.

[Spikes]

Same with Oldwolf posting audio of me losing my temper. There's no mention of what he and members of Tropical Thunder were saying and doing beforehand. Provoke, wait for a reaction, record it, and then present it without context. I'd be interested to see that full context, but it wouldn't fit the angle he's pushing, would it?

I don't really think "the other guy started it" is a great defense here.

[99_capera]

Not engaging in this tread anymore. What needed to be said, was said.

Time to get back to gaming.

God Bless.

[oTRALFZo]

Nobody has to tune to 200

Doesn't give you a right to be completely unhinged on that channel either.

[Dadtallica]

Lately it hasn't even been 200, he just uses vox now and directly tunes to you.  Haven't said a word to him in weeks, but that doesn't stop the crying and nagging.  I just ignore it and it makes it worse.  Either way im not really bothered by it, its half the entertainment of the game now.

Oh, he’s pretty awful lol… didn’t think I needed to belay the point.

[nrshida]

I remember coming to this forum thinking I could have discussions about ACM 

Well clearly some people like fuedin' more than the actual flying and if that's what you want to do well 'nuff said 

[Animl-AW]

I remember coming to this forum thinking I could have discussions about ACM 

Well clearly some people like fuedin' more than the actual flying and if that's what you want to do well 'nuff said 

ding ding ding
We have the winner of the chrome dinette.
Carol show the man what he’s won.

No offense to females, but some of you act like a naggy wife and reminds me why I’m glad I’m single. Ya’ve normalized it.

And it’s no way just 200. So whether you 200 or not ya either do it there or here.

Hell, all I have to do is make a post here and 13 people put it inder a microscope to find something to squeak about.

200 isn’t anywhere near as bad as bbs.

If I wanna take sniveling I’ll get married again, at least I’ll get sex out of it.

Whats left are those who chased others off. Seen this pattern 3 times.

Most in this thread provoke for laughs here and/or 200.

Dadtlica constantly provokes me
Haggerty is always complaining about how I fly
Ya allow a clique to do it, then flame anyone who responds in defense.
Ya ALLOW a group to commit crimes but berated the person defending it.
Even top rank has jumped in to provoke a flame created by one track train trolls who don’t even play the game.

Ya can’t post here without being ganged by the clique.

It’s extremely selective.

Basically ya’ve burned the house down and now want to kick the ashes.

I’ll take 200 over bbs ANY day.

Yall need to pull your pants up.

I get attacked but ya come after me. My middle finger isn’t big enough. Players without thick skin just quit.

In a word, hypocrites at the core. Biddies.

Quiet, ya make me ill.