Collision Model Change

[Animl-AW]

I figure since HT is updating and everyone spewing 100 item xmas list,....

There may be reasons I am unaware of for the way it is, like uber dweebleness, but both parties should take damage from any collision.
Current is not realistic.

Deciding points get in the way?

If it makes a wrong decision on who intentionally rammed, it's no good straight out of the box.

Seriously.

But wait!!, there's more.....

[Wiley]

Simply put,

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,412990.msg5477203.html#msg5477203

The current system has what you see is what you get.  If you run into the plane, you take damage.  If you don't, you don't.  If both planes go down, you get the situation from the film.  I don't want to die by invisible planes hitting me at all.

Wiley.

[Animl-AW]

Simply put,

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,412990.msg5477203.html#msg5477203

The current system has what you see is what you get.  If you run into the plane, you take damage.  If you don't, you don't.  If both planes go down, you get the situation from the film.  I don't want to die by invisible planes hitting me at all.

Wiley.

I saw this before. I don’t think it defend damage to one only, which is most often and it gets it wrong.

It’s an HO ram both should be damaged as it takes two stay in that angle. It has gotten it wrong too. Many time I get rammed and I’m going down while they fly away unharmed. It’s removed when it’s both

A 90 degree ram would be the intent of one.

I get the visible point, but I disagree it shouldn’t be changed. It still sees it as a ram, even if the data alignment isn’t perfect.

[Wiley]

It is not your insurance adjuster.  It can't ascribe intent.

So you're saying if you were the jug, you'd be ok going down in that scenario?

Wiley.

[Kruel]

Keep it the way it is. It's fun being able to kill planes without ammo.

[Animl-AW]

Either way you already have an error in motion, the system already declares a collision between 2 named players.

If it slows habitual HOing then yes. Why error only to one. Error to both. Yes I do. They were both following through on that merge, the intent was two-sided. Lets cut the crap.

We have a few where more than half their score is HOing and surviving the collision. Stop that.

My take is, too bad. Don’t take that merge.

My guess is the error goes to one because of buff kamikazes.

In which case if it involves a buff error to one side

Is is right? Can it be done? Dunno

[Animl-AW]

That or award no points in an HO collision.

BTW I can’t see the film without signing up. I don’t do that.

[LCADolby]

At the moment in a collision, if 1 man avoids he lives, this is a better system than the frustration you will get from avoiding and being punished.

My advise, Avoid the collision with the other fighter Animl.

That being said, the system can be exploited by nefarious dweebery on slow moving bombers... Maybe there is a solution for that.

[Animl-AW]

At the moment in a collision, if 1 man avoids he lives, this is a better system than the frustration you will get from avoiding and being punished.

My advise, Avoid the collision with the other fighter Animl.

That being said, the system can be exploited by nefarious dweebery on slow moving bombers... Maybe there is a solution for that.

Thats my point. It’s 50/50 who takes damage. If both take it curbs both or one taking that merge. HO is epidemic. If both take damage it can slow that mentality. Everyone knows you can avoid it, it’s not rocket science, most don’t. This is not about me. But I do love killing an HOer. “You Hoed, you died, too bad”

[The Fugitive]

That or award no points in an HO collision.

BTW I can’t see the film without signing up. I don’t do that.

http://75.138.186.96:8080/pics/collision.gif

In the gif above, the pony does the colliding. He received the "you have collided with XXXX" message and has taken damage.

This is two films layered over each other.

Where the pony collides with the P47 is the "ponies" view/film.

Where the pony flies along 50 YARDS to the right of the P47 is the P47s view/film

So by allowing "both take damage" you would be ok with just flying 50 yards to one side or another of an enemy plane and have a wing fall off.

In a head on, all you have to do is yank your plane at the last second out of the way of the other plane. If you do, you avoid the collision. If the other player....who is intent on blasting you and just holds his aim doesnt, he gets the collision

[Animl-AW]

If I encounter someone who wants to actually fight I avoid HOs. If their first merge is a direct 12 o’clock, good luck.

[The Fugitive]

Thats my point. It’s 50/50 who takes damage. If both take it curbs both or one taking that merge. HO is epidemic. If both take damage it can slow that mentality. Everyone knows you can avoid it, it’s not rocket science, most don’t. This is not about me. But I do love killing an HOer. “You Hoed, you died, too bad”

It is NOT 50/50, it is who ever collides gets the damge. Avoid running into someone and you wont take damage!

[Wiley]

Thats my point. It’s 50/50 who takes damage. If both take it curbs both or one taking that merge. HO is epidemic. If both take damage it can slow that mentality. Everyone knows you can avoid it, it’s not rocket science, most don’t. This is not about me. But I do love killing an HOer. “You Hoed, you died, too bad”

Under the current system, there is no 50/50.  If you miss the other plane, you don't take damage.  If you contact the other plane, you take damage.  Simple.  What you see, is what you get.  On the other guy's end, same thing.  If he misses your plane, he does not take damage.  If he contacts your plane, he does take damage.

I just can't fathom people who think the better solution is for your plane to go down when you avoided a collision but the other guy didn't.

The only downside is the possibility of the bomber thing Dolby mentioned, and I haven't seen a landslide of those in the MA.  The bomber is shooting at you when you try.

Wiley.

[Animl-AW]

I watched that example many times. I totally get it, for years.

What I  saying is the current is not realistic and it almost encourages direct HOs at a 50/50.
If it’s 100.% both take it, both avoid the HO. No more gambling.

We have guys who intensionally ram and fly away. Thats BS

[The Fugitive]

I watched that example many times. I totally get it, for years.

What I  saying is the current us not realistic and it almost encourages direct HOs at a 50/50.
If it’s 100.% both take it, both avoid the HO. No more gambling.

It is 100% now. If you fly strait into someone on a HO you WILL collide, you WILL take damage. Everyone KNOWS it, and yet they still do it.