Proxy kill debate

[oTRALFZo]

Kind of on the fence with this one.

Should proxies be included in the total kill count or does anyone think they should be listed as proxies?

Feels dirty landing kills sometimes without firing a shot or earning the kill. Downside I see is folks bailing to negate the kill to give them a proxy kill.
Thoughts anyone?

[haggerty]

too much involved in trying to determine what is a free proxy and an earned proxy, people already regularly bail just before they are hit to make it a proxy, would hate to see that behavior further rewarded.

[LilMak]

I feel ya but I think you should get credit. I may not have fired a shot but if I worked you so low that you hit a tree. Kinda feel like that’s mine. Also, closing in a on a formation of bombers and the just punch out. Kinda think I should get that too.

[Wiley]

I feel ya but I think you should get credit. I may not have fired a shot but if I worked you so low that you hit a tree. Kinda feel like that’s mine. Also, closing in a on a formation of bombers and the just punch out. Kinda think I should get that too.

This about catches it.  If it's bothersome to somebody, I wouldn't be opposed to have proxies get their own category if that makes them feel better but I don't think the bailing should be a free pass.

Wiley.

[Randy1]

I get a lot of  proxy kills.  No they should not count as a point kill.  I have no problem if they are posted in the text buffer, just no point kill.

If they counted the number cybro like players would dramatically increase.

[LCADolby]

All my kills were by proxy 

[oTRALFZo]

too much involved in trying to determine what is a free proxy and an earned proxy, people already regularly bail just before they are hit to make it a proxy, would hate to see that behavior further rewarded.

It is already determined when earning perks. You collect nothing on bailouts/assists.

[haggerty]

I know, but if you take it away from people's legitimate kills the trolls will bail even more to try to trigger the attacker.  It already takes away from score, giving only 1 point towards kill damage instead of a couple hundrd.

[oTRALFZo]

I know, but if you take it away from people's legitimate kills the trolls will bail even more to try to trigger the attacker.  It already takes away from score, giving only 1 point towards kill damage instead of a couple hundrd.

We COULD list it as "X has bailed out of a perfectly good airplane" when the proxy does not register any hits instead of it counting as a kill.
I think that alone will somewhat deter the bomb/bailers