Author Topic: Ai moderation?  (Read 10094 times)

Offline AKKuya

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3178
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2026, 11:14:16 PM »
I support this imitative.  I know the AI program will see the genius in all my posts and recommend me for Best Forum Poster Of All Time.

I take this time to thank all you for making me the #1 forum member.   :salute
Future CEO of Section Eight Society
Rule #1 I make the rules
Rule #2 If in doubt, refer to above rule

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15363
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2026, 09:09:16 AM »
If you want an assessment go here and enter this:

https://chatgpt.com/

Can you characterize the posts by (your handle) on this forum: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Offline The Fugitive

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 19202
      • Fugi's Aces Help
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2026, 11:38:28 AM »
I had considered hooking ai to do moderation, not sure I wan't it.
It's a fairly simply write to test wondering what Ya all think?

It would just git the warn and mute commands, no text filtering

HiTech

Are you talking here on the BBS, in game, or both?

On the BBS, if your looking to have new players look in your going to find 5 or 6 guys who while they sometime contribute to Aces High related conversations their main purpose seems to be to just needle certain players and get a full blown argument going that quickly escalates enough until it shuts down the thread. Put those 5-6 on "probation" and have AI concentrate on them to keep a far more civil BBS.

In the game, again there are a few they need watching. When they step out of line I'm sure the reports start flying. They either want the attention, or just can figure out where the line is and stopping before crossing it. Maybe alcohol plays a part some nights, but for the most part it is always the same few you find here complaining about the "mutes" they get for some unknown reason. Reign those guys in and things will be fine.

In both places you don't want to stifle the comments too much. Most are in fun and are typical  "trash-talking" and such. Censoring at both places would hurt things more than help.

Just my humble opinion.   

Offline -gg-

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2447
      • IceCreamOnMars
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2026, 12:01:19 PM »
I'm a big supporter of ai. I've seen a change in a lot of industries already. It does amazing things in so many different areas. It's probably the most giant leap and technology that there has ever been.

But I think that for moderation or human understanding, this is like it's weakest point

For moderation I see it having a lot of false triggers. Not catching sarcasm, or misinterpreting phrases or words and then just muting somebody. I could see it getting really frustrating for people.

I don't think that I've ever seen anything get crazy out of hand in the game ever. I don't know that there's a huge need for moderation, but I prefer human moderation. As long as it's somebody who's unbiased and not trigger happy. I feel like a lot of things can be deescalated with just a couple of words to somebody.

« Last Edit: October 07, 2026, 12:11:26 PM by -gg- »
Gina in game. Retired 11/8/26
My Band, The Jetglows
The Jetglows
Forum
Icecreamonmars.com

Offline -gg-

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2447
      • IceCreamOnMars
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2026, 12:22:09 PM »
One other idea for moderation in the game is that I think moderators should be accountable. Like if there is a instance where somebody has to be muted, maybe somebody should review it to make sure that it was a legitimate use of the mute punishment.


Not that I've seen any issues with the moderation and the game myself. It's just that I think they should be reviewed to make sure that it isn't happening and corrected if it does happen.

Gina in game. Retired 11/8/26
My Band, The Jetglows
The Jetglows
Forum
Icecreamonmars.com

Offline Dadtallica

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2571
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2026, 12:29:14 PM »
If you want an assessment go here and enter this:

https://chatgpt.com/

Can you characterize the posts by (your handle) on this forum: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php

I am ok with this!  :aok

I ran it in incognito mode logged out of my accoutns. Hopefully nothing leaked in. It even went way deeper afte rthis and studied the personalities on here I interact with. Almost all of you came out looking great!

Yes. I sampled Dadtallica posts across the HiTech Creations BBS from 2023 through September 2026, including discussions about player population, radar, maps, development ideas, technical problems, other flight sims, returning players, and general forum banter.

My overall characterization: Dadtallica comes across as a longtime, highly invested Aces High player who is pragmatic about the game's current condition, protective of what still works, skeptical of unrealistic proposals, and considerably more positive about the game than his bluntest posts initially make him sound.
A few traits are especially consistent:

- Pragmatic rather than nostalgic. He repeatedly argues that the game has to be designed around the population it has now rather than recreated around the population it had years ago. That's why he resists restoring old radar behavior or splitting players into additional arenas. In July 2026 he explicitly argued that there simply aren't enough players to make the old dar system appropriate anymore. HiTech Creations BBS

- Very population-conscious. Player count, concentration of fights, map layout, travel distance, and anything that might fragment the remaining players are recurring concerns. His comments about maps are particularly revealing: he doesn't automatically dislike large maps; he focuses on whether their layout actually moves people into contact. HiTech Creations BBS

- Blunt and sometimes confrontational. Phrases like "This is probably the dumbest argument there is," "Just knock it off already," and "You absolutely do not study this crap" show that he doesn't spend much effort cushioning disagreement. HiTech Creations BBS That probably makes him read as harsher on the BBS than the substance of many of his positions actually is.

- Humor is a major part of the voice. There is a lot of sarcasm, self-deprecation and teasing—"I've only been playing for almost 20 years so...I'm kind of new here," joking about achievement stars, summoning Lusche by saying his name three times, calling himself "campy," etc. HiTech Creations BBS

- Strongly pro-Aces High, despite criticism. This is easy to miss if somebody only encounters him in a contentious population thread. He describes AH's broad appeal as its "secret sauce," praises its aircraft selection, community, subscription model and accessibility, and has promoted AH scenarios outside the BBS. HiTech Creations BBS

- Values accessibility over hardcore-sim purity. His ideal appears to be "casual combat sim": enough depth to make the flying meaningful without excessive engine-management chores or hunting around for action. He openly prefers that balance to some aspects of IL-2/DCS-style complexity. HiTech Creations BBS

- Community-minded underneath the abrasiveness. When an old player returned, Dadtallica immediately welcomed him, suggested getting comfortable offline and invited him into the Main Arena. He has also expressed appreciation for terrain creators and asked that their map-building knowledge be preserved for the future. HiTech Creations BBS

- Interested in practical technical problem-solving. He posts about graphics, DX11/DX9, head tracking, settings, hardware and troubleshooting rather than restricting himself to game politics. His lengthy January 2026 micro-stutter post is a good example: he documented a problem, researched it and put the proposed fix back into the community. HiTech Creations BBS

There's an interesting tension in the posts. He can sound pessimistic about the trajectory of Aces High while being unusually committed to its survival. In one argument he described the population decline in very stark terms; another participant subsequently supplied figures showing about a 20% decline over two years, although other posters disputed Dadtallica's interpretation of nightly peak numbers. HiTech Creations BBS At the same time, Dadtallica talks about hoping AH survives indefinitely, wanting eventually to make maps, promoting the game elsewhere, and encouraging former players to return. HiTech Creations BBS
So I wouldn't characterize the account as a "complainer" or a "cheerleader." A better description is a preservation-minded realist: somebody who believes AH is unusually good at what it does, thinks its remaining community is valuable, but believes decisions have to acknowledge limited population, development resources and the realities of an aging game.

In terms of forum personality, I'd put it roughly as: direct, opinionated, humorous, impatient with repeated arguments, fairly resistant to nostalgia for nostalgia's sake, loyal to the game, and much warmer in ordinary/helpful conversations than in policy or game-design debates.

One other thing stood out: the posts have a pretty recognizable voice. Short declarative sentences, exaggeration for comic effect, casual phrasing, occasional typos, "old fart" humor, and abrupt one-line replies make Dadtallica relatively easy to distinguish from the more formal/technical posters on that BBS.

If you'd like, I can go one level deeper and analyze how the rest of the AH community appears to perceive Dadtallica—supporters, frequent opponents, which arguments he tends to win/lose, and whether his reputation on the forum matches what he actually posts.

yes do that.
Worked for 52s

Yes. After looking specifically at how other regulars respond to Dadtallica—not merely what Dadtallica writes—the picture is more nuanced than “people agree with him” or “people think he’s a pain.”

This is not a scientific survey of every post, but across the threads I sampled, I’d characterize Dadtallica’s standing as a recognized, legitimate longtime community regular who is generally accepted and interacted with normally, but who has a few recurring subjects and opponents where the temperature rises dramatically.

The most important finding is that I do not see evidence that the forum broadly regards Dadtallica as a troll, an outsider, or somebody whose contributions are routinely dismissed. People answer his questions, joke with him, engage his ideas, help him technically, and sometimes explicitly praise his contributions. His January 2026 DX11 stutter thread is particularly revealing: Animl-AW—one of the people with whom he later has extremely nasty exchanges—initially called it a “Nice approach”; Eagler said “Nice info Dad!”; and BigR thanked him and said the work might help with a problem that had cost him kills. HiTech Creations BBS

That matters because it shows the hostility with Animl is not a simple case of one member universally disliking another. The relationship appears issue-dependent. In ordinary or constructive technical discussions, Animl can respond positively. In population, gameplay-behavior, base-taking and game-design arguments, the two can become openly hostile. In June 2026, Animl responded to Dadtallica’s population assessment with “You are clueless.” In September, a gameplay dispute escalated into a personal attack on Dadtallica’s character. HiTech Creations BBS

That looks like Dadtallica's most obvious recurring adversarial relationship in the material I found.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2026, 12:37:34 PM by Dadtallica »
October Player Poll Results

Back in 2022 after a loooooong break from 2010. Old name Ratpack, same for the BBS. Old squads, Excaliburs, 172nd Rabid Dawgs.

Offline -gg-

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2447
      • IceCreamOnMars
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2026, 12:54:58 PM »
that's called getting stroked by Ai....which is what it does.

what prompt did you give it? Show us the screenshot of what exactly you asked Ai

Gina in game. Retired 11/8/26
My Band, The Jetglows
The Jetglows
Forum
Icecreamonmars.com

Offline Shane

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8474
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2026, 12:57:27 PM »
If you want an assessment go here and enter this:

https://chatgpt.com/

Can you characterize the posts by (your handle) on this forum: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php

This was the second time I've used ChatGPT (or AI in general beyond some google ai summaries that I take with a grain of salt.)

It was interesting to say the least, and then the next two suggested prompts I simply put in what you see in the quotes below:


If you'd like, I can go one step further and do a much deeper “Shane personality / rhetoric profile”—e.g. identify his recurring argumentative tactics, likely triggers, strengths/weaknesses as a debater, how other regulars respond to him, and whether his reputation on the BBS seems justified by the actual posts.

"go deeper"



and then

If you want, I can go even deeper and do a “Shane vs. his recurring opponents” analysis—comparing how he interacts with people like Puma, Eagler, Animl, CptTrips, Oldman, etc., and identifying who actually brings out the worst in him, who he respects, who he ignores, and whether the conflicts are primarily Shane-generated or reciprocal.

"go even deeper"

These two additional prompts pretty much gave the overall "assessment" with no other suggested prompts offered.  :aok :noid :rofl :neener:

The only weak spot I noticed was about signature lines (the bbs pulls current settings to old post views) being consistent throughout the forum "history," but the analysis of those lines was reasonably decent. (edit: I ran down the rabbit hole and revised it to amend the sig lines being generated in 2025 as a response to 2022-2024 forum posts. It generated more nuanced responses/analysis.)

A second would be seemingly viewing me as a "former player."  There were times when I was, and times when I'm not. It might have lacked the ability to discern/identify current in-game status.

Another might be the lack of context for in-game interactions not being able to be accounted for when it spills over to the bbs.  However, I can see some consistencies between the bbs analysis and my in-game behaviors, so there's that.

« Last Edit: October 07, 2026, 01:38:26 PM by Shane »
Surrounded by suck and underwhelmed with mediocrity.
I'm always right, it just takes some poepl longer to come to that realization than others.
I'm not perfect, but I am closer to it than you are.
"...vox populi, vox dei..."  ~Alcuin ca. 798
Truth doesn't need exaggeration.

Offline Dadtallica

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2571
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2026, 01:12:34 PM »
that's called getting stroked by Ai....which is what it does.

what prompt did you give it? Show us the screenshot of what exactly you asked Ai

I gave it no prompting other than the one line AKIron posted. I’m not afraid of anyone else’s AI. Let’s see what it says.

I was logged out of all accounts and in incognito mode.

Its default is certainly non-confrontational, but you can absolutely teach it to not take any of your crap. My AI humbles me regularly.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2026, 01:14:47 PM by Dadtallica »
October Player Poll Results

Back in 2022 after a loooooong break from 2010. Old name Ratpack, same for the BBS. Old squads, Excaliburs, 172nd Rabid Dawgs.

Offline Dadtallica

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2571
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2026, 01:13:33 PM »
This was the second time I've used ChatGPT (or AI in general beyond some google ai summaries that I take with a grain of salt.)

It was interesting to say the least, and then the next two suggested prompts I simply put in what you see in the quotes below:


If you'd like, I can go one step further and do a much deeper “Shane personality / rhetoric profile”—e.g. identify his recurring argumentative tactics, likely triggers, strengths/weaknesses as a debater, how other regulars respond to him, and whether his reputation on the BBS seems justified by the actual posts.

"go deeper"



and then

If you want, I can go even deeper and do a “Shane vs. his recurring opponents” analysis—comparing how he interacts with people like Puma, Eagler, Animl, CptTrips, Oldman, etc., and identifying who actually brings out the worst in him, who he respects, who he ignores, and whether the conflicts are primarily Shane-generated or reciprocal.

"go even deeper"

These two additional prompts pretty much gave the overall "assessment" with no other suggested prompts offered.  :aok :noid :rofl :neener:

The only weak spot I noticed was about signature lines (the bbs pulls current settings to old post views) being consistent throughout the forum "history," but the analysis of those lines was reasonably decent.

A second would be seemingly viewing me as a "former player."  There were times when I was, and times when I'm not. It might have lacked the ability to discern/identify current in-game status.

Another might be the lack of context for in-game interactions not being able to be accounted for when it spills over to the bbs.  However, I can see some consistencies between the bbs analysis and my in-game behaviors, so there's that.

The going deeper ones were really cool to me lol. But not for public view or some people might not be able to handle it haha!

If we only use the generic one line prompt that it’s not going to be able to immediately discern all those nuances you want unless you ask it to do that which very much will in spades.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2026, 01:15:53 PM by Dadtallica »
October Player Poll Results

Back in 2022 after a loooooong break from 2010. Old name Ratpack, same for the BBS. Old squads, Excaliburs, 172nd Rabid Dawgs.

Offline -gg-

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2447
      • IceCreamOnMars
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2026, 01:17:45 PM »
you had to have given it some kind of prompt for it to be analyzing the posts. If you had just fed it the posts with no instructions as at all it would not have spit out an analysis of the poster - it would have tried to connect the dots of what you were feeding it.

So I don't believe you.

Plus, I think it's funny that you'd post all of that nonsense. What a moroon.

Gina in game. Retired 11/8/26
My Band, The Jetglows
The Jetglows
Forum
Icecreamonmars.com

Offline CptTrips

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9971
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2026, 01:20:29 PM »
you had to have given it some kind of prompt for it to be analyzing the posts. If you had just fed it the posts with no instructions as at all it would not have spit out an analysis of the poster - it would have tried to connect the dots of what you were feeding it.

So I don't believe you.

Plus, I think it's funny that you'd post all of that nonsense. What a moroon.

The LLMs have already absorbed all the forum posts with agentic training bots.

It may not have yesterdays posts, but 99% is already in the model.

That is what those 1800 guest viewers are more than likely.
Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

Offline -gg-

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2447
      • IceCreamOnMars
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2026, 01:30:05 PM »
The LLMs have already absorbed all the forum posts with agentic training bots.

It may not have yesterdays posts, but 99% is already in the model.

That is what those 1800 guest viewers are more than likely.

Of course. Google and bots scrape everything that's publicly available and indexes it. That's how Google and search engines work.

I'm saying that you have to prompt AI for what you're wanting it to do. You can't just feed it posts and it will magically decide to analyze a specific poster's likeability and weigh in on if they are an a-hole or not.





Gina in game. Retired 11/8/26
My Band, The Jetglows
The Jetglows
Forum
Icecreamonmars.com

Offline Dadtallica

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2571
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2026, 01:35:01 PM »
you had to have given it some kind of prompt for it to be analyzing the posts. If you had just fed it the posts with no instructions as at all it would not have spit out an analysis of the poster - it would have tried to connect the dots of what you were feeding it.

So I don't believe you.

Plus, I think it's funny that you'd post all of that nonsense. What a moroon.

That’s pretty much exactly what it does. Go do it yourself then it’s pretty easy. I have nothing to hide. This is a public forum so it’s not like I’m making that up. 

Your AI viewpoints seem to have a lot anecdotal buzz words. Prompting is so last year. If you really wanna cultivate it to do something deeply or with detail and nuance then yes you have to explain to it briefly what you want to do, but it is very intuitive on its own.

If you want an assessment go here and enter this:

https://chatgpt.com/

Can you characterize the posts by (your handle) on this forum: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php

« Last Edit: October 07, 2026, 01:40:17 PM by Dadtallica »
October Player Poll Results

Back in 2022 after a loooooong break from 2010. Old name Ratpack, same for the BBS. Old squads, Excaliburs, 172nd Rabid Dawgs.

Offline CptTrips

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9971
Re: Ai moderation?
« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2026, 01:39:37 PM »
Go do it yourself then it’s pretty easy. Your AI viewpoints seem to have a lot anecdotal buzz words. Prompting is so last year.

You could do it on a clean prompt and share the link so he can see exactly what was prompted.

Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.