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Offline AKKuya

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AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« on: October 08, 2026, 09:22:30 PM »
The only person he trusts is himself.  Why would he trust a bunch of O's and 1's?

He found a way to clone HIMSELF!


There is an army of HiTechs writing code.

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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2026, 12:44:44 AM »
We could also just stop calling an artificial intelligence and keep calling it computing like it’s always been since the first day of the Calculator.

That’s all it’s doing.
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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2026, 07:01:27 AM »
We could also just stop calling an artificial intelligence and keep calling it computing like it’s always been since the first day of the Calculator.

That’s all it’s doing.

Nailed it.

I call it virtual intelligence because we're all just pretending machines can be intelligent.
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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2026, 07:52:28 AM »
Defining intelligence, or consciousness, which may or may not be the same thing, is not so easy. What do you really know about anything beyond what your own senses and reasoning tell you? Nothing.
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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2026, 08:12:21 AM »
Defining intelligence, or consciousness, which may or may not be the same thing, is not so easy. What do you really know about anything beyond what your own senses and reasoning tell you? Nothing.

Ok computer.

I do not believe machines are alive. It's pretty simple for me.
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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2026, 08:24:27 AM »
Defining intelligence, or consciousness, which may or may not be the same thing, is not so easy. What do you really know about anything beyond what your own senses and reasoning tell you? Nothing.

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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2026, 08:58:39 AM »
The only person he trusts is himself.  Why would he trust a bunch of O's and 1's?

He found a way to clone HIMSELF!


There is an army of AHiTechs writing code.

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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2026, 09:10:11 AM »
Ok computer.

I do not believe machines are alive. It's pretty simple for me.

Does life have to be organic? Define "alive".
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2026, 09:19:54 AM »
Does life have to be organic? Define "alive".

Define machine. It really is simple.

The rest of this is just going to be a religious discussion that you clearly disagree about.
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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2026, 09:35:10 AM »
Define machine. It really is simple.

The rest of this is just going to be a religious discussion that you clearly disagree about.


The question isn't what is "alive", the question is what is intelligence.






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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2026, 09:36:34 AM »
Define machine. It really is simple.

The rest of this is just going to be a religious discussion that you clearly disagree about.

You keep saying it is simple. It isn't. Since you don't want to get specific here's something to consider. If you believe being alive is the domain of the organic only then you must believe there is no realm beyond what you can physically sense. If it's "simple".
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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2026, 09:43:09 AM »
Intelligence includes the generative principle. Machines can't create anything on their own.

You keep saying it is simple. It isn't. Since you don't want to get specific here's something to consider. If you believe being alive is the domain of the organic only then you must believe there is no realm beyond what you can physically sense. If it's "simple".

It is simple. Only God can create life. Everyone else are just trying to play god. I'm not interested in getting into an argument over it, believe what you want.
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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2026, 09:46:52 AM »
Intelligence includes the generative principle. Machines can't create anything on their own.

It is simple. Only God can create life. Everyone else are just trying to play god. I'm not interested in getting into an argument over it, believe what you want.

No response needed but I'll just say are we not made in his image with the ability to create? We create offspring through biological procreation. Perhaps we aren't limited to this method. I'm not saying we should.
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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2026, 09:52:23 AM »
Intelligence includes the generative principle. Machines can't create anything on their own.

It is simple. Only God can create life. Everyone else are just trying to play god. I'm not interested in getting into an argument over it, believe what you want.

That seems incredibly convenient for a violently and unforgiving chaotic universe.
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Re: AI Is Not What HiTech Is Using
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2026, 09:53:00 AM »
You keep saying it is simple. It isn't. Since you don't want to get specific here's something to consider. If you believe being alive is the domain of the organic only then you must believe there is no realm beyond what you can physically sense. If it's "simple".


There is no proof that something has to be alive to be intelligent.  That is a red-herring.

There are even examples  "collective intelligence".  Ant colonies can create an intelligence in aggregate that far exceed the intelligence of any single ant.  These systems display all the hallmarks of intelligence and information processing in aggregate that none of the individual components possess.

Heck even what is "alive" is a surprisingly hard definition.  What a group of biologists argue over if virus are alive.  Nature is far more complex than hairless little monkeys can fully grasp and feels no obligation to fit in nice neat little categories our little monkey brains can wrap around.

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