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Offline 1Cane

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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2026, 09:11:10 AM »
Lost a base was heading friendly field dar was clear, then tracers flying by and Joker on my six.
Today chasing buffs dar shows behind me and I can see them front and high.

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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2026, 09:29:27 AM »
Lost a base was heading friendly field dar was clear, then tracers flying by and Joker on my six.
Today chasing buffs dar shows behind me and I can see them front and high.

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Working as expected...

It's to get your head out of the cockpit and actually look around for yourself..

I was happy when it was 1st changed to 45 seconds but I can see that as too much for many clipboard queens..

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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2026, 11:32:15 AM »
I'm a proud clipboard queen! 

I got ganged before we had better dar.  I like being able to see it coming sooner. 

I don't want immersion and always looking around with VR strapped to my face. I got a screen, twisty stick, wife ack, beer, chips, and maybe a sandwich to contend with already.  It's a game.

I can choose if I want to get ganged because it's on dar.  Yes, they can see me, and I can see them, too.

Getting picked is a win.  If the other guy asks for help or doesn't call off the third guy, he was beat.  If it's 1v2, then I can admire well executed wingman tactics, or kill them both. 

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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2026, 12:50:50 PM »
I'm a proud clipboard queen! 

I got ganged before we had better dar.  I like being able to see it coming sooner. 

I don't want immersion and always looking around with VR strapped to my face. I got a screen, twisty stick, wife ack, beer, chips, and maybe a sandwich to contend with already.  It's a game.

I can choose if I want to get ganged because it's on dar.  Yes, they can see me, and I can see them, too.

Getting picked is a win.  If the other guy asks for help or doesn't call off the third guy, he was beat.  If it's 1v2, then I can admire well executed wingman tactics, or kill them both.
Gangs are not going to stop with the delay. But the degree and speed to which you get ganged will definitely slow. Which is the whole point. Nothing but respect Gooss but the fact of the matter is, even with the delay, your statement about who sees who is objectively false. If it’s 6v1 (outside a radar ring), all six see you but you might only see the one or two within icon range. All the delay does it add some questions about the exact location of the players involved.

Wife ack is all powerful and I would deny no man his beer and chips. But maybe consider finishing the sandwich before launching your sortie? That’ll literally get one thing off your plate.  :grin:
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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2026, 01:10:18 PM »
So now we are gate keeping clipboards?
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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2026, 01:11:30 PM »
I'm a proud clipboard queen! 

I got ganged before we had better dar.  I like being able to see it coming sooner. 

I don't want immersion and always looking around with VR strapped to my face. I got a screen, twisty stick, wife ack, beer, chips, and maybe a sandwich to contend with already.  It's a game.

I can choose if I want to get ganged because it's on dar.  Yes, they can see me, and I can see them, too.

Getting picked is a win.  If the other guy asks for help or doesn't call off the third guy, he was beat.  If it's 1v2, then I can admire well executed wingman tactics, or kill them both.

Yup… same here!
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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2026, 06:14:51 AM »
This is the worst change that Ah has done!  At 360 mph 20 second delay is 2 miles.
 Recently my side had lost a base ,I was in Tempy wepped out om the deck trying for RTB. Checked dar was clear Joker dropped in with P47 ,didn't know he was there until his tracers hit me.He did show on dar as i went down.
WE  have allowed vocal minority to change game. I was happy with old setting so i didn't complain.
  Another example of vocal minority :x :x
  Took away F3 in Il2 and we ended up losing GHI,a great player and he made game fun.
  Took away feet dry spawn to accommodate the horde,it made the game fun defend.

    I think this is the worst change AH has made
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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2026, 08:04:48 AM »
This is the worst change that Ah has done!  At 360 mph 20 second delay is 2 miles.
 Recently my side had lost a base ,I was in Tempy wepped out om the deck trying for RTB. Checked dar was clear Joker dropped in with P47 ,didn't know he was there until his tracers hit me.He did show on dar as i went down.
WE  have allowed vocal minority to change game. I was happy with old setting so i didn't complain.
  Another example of vocal minority :x :x
  Took away F3 in Il2 and we ended up losing GHI,a great player and he made game fun.
  Took away feet dry spawn to accommodate the horde,it made the game fun defend.

    I think this is the worst change AH has made

That came about as coding error, it was never supposed to happen. It did NOT happen in AH2.
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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2026, 08:13:53 AM »
This is the worst change that Ah has done!  At 360 mph 20 second delay is 2 miles.
 Recently my side had lost a base ,I was in Tempy wepped out om the deck trying for RTB. Checked dar was clear Joker dropped in with P47 ,didn't know he was there until his tracers hit me.He did show on dar as i went down.
WE  have allowed vocal minority to change game. I was happy with old setting so i didn't complain.
  Another example of vocal minority :x :x
  Took away F3 in Il2 and we ended up losing GHI,a great player and he made game fun.
  Took away feet dry spawn to accommodate the horde,it made the game fun defend.

    I think this is the worst change AH has made

That's hilarious  :banana: :banana:

It works exactly as happened to you..to pull your head out of the cockpit like it should be..not playing the game via the clipboard only/majority....

We need a clipboard queen icon for whines like this.. :joystick:

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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2026, 08:25:22 AM »
I was in Tempy wepped out om the deck trying for RTB. Checked dar was clear Joker dropped in with P47 ,didn't know he was there until his tracers hit me.

Sounds like a classic bounce to me.

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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2026, 09:29:31 AM »
That's hilarious  :banana: :banana:

It works exactly as happened to you..to pull your head out of the cockpit like it should be..not playing the game via the clipboard only/majority....

We need a clipboard queen icon for whines like this.. :joystick:

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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2026, 10:00:32 AM »
Not everybody is looking for this level of realism that’s why they play this game. They play others.
This game, for the majority of its existence, had exactly this level of realism.

Don’t want to get bounced? Look out the window, check your six with your eyeballs, roll your wings, pull a crazy Ivan every now and then.
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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2026, 10:04:06 AM »
This game, for the majority of its existence, had exactly this level of realism.

Don’t want to get bounced? Look out the window, check your six with your eyeballs, roll your wings, pull a crazy Ivan every now and then.

That was then…

I’ve already adjusted to it so it doesn’t bother me anymore. I still would like it to be back to five and I think maybe 10 is better. Also, we haven’t seen what it will look like when the icon fade over time that might help a lot.
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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2026, 10:13:23 AM »
That was then…

I’ve already adjusted to it so it doesn’t bother me anymore. I still would like it to be back to five and I think maybe 10 is better. Also, we haven’t seen what it will look like when the icon fade over time that might help a lot.
I think 20 is OK (no shorter). However, I think the radar rings (when active) should be returned to 5. The problem, if that happens, becomes the potential confusion if there’s no delineation between a contact within a ring or outside.
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Offline 1Cane

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Re: Slowed refresh of radar
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2026, 10:45:22 AM »
Working as expected...

It's to get your head out of the cockpit and actually look around for yourself..

I was happy when it was 1st changed to 45 seconds but I can see that as too much for many clipboard queens..

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GHI was a fantastic player left the game because the changes over F3 and the IL2
Will a Tierra be involved ,want to know what to wear. You want to make the game more realistic get killed and you're out of it.
Until then I think this is a terrible change and make the play worse.
News that is 20s late at 360mph is useles
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