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ENY again
« on: October 29, 2026, 12:11:00 PM »
Had not flown much for two weeks. Came on last night around 9.30 pacific and sat through ENY the whole time. Was over 20 and there were maybe 15 total players in the air. The total numbers logged in when I logged off was 15/15/5. Actually flying was lower. There's a BIG, EMPTY map and no ganging was going on, In fact, the only fight I found had ME being ganged.

I was fighting the 2-3 players at a time.... so I was being outnumbered.

After an hour ENY went up again and I could only fly crap planes. I sat in the tower for awhile and then just logged off

Is the intent of ENY to make the game not fun for people like me when the numbers are SO LOW?

I'm seriously and continually annoyed and maddened by EYN.

It deserves a review. When numbers are low it needs to go away. It makes no sense.

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Re: ENY again
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2026, 12:32:29 PM »
You seem to like Jugs. Next time you see me online, I invite you to join me in a ride along in a D-11 and maybe I can convince you that a crap plane can actually be a lot of fun?

But I agree that the threshold for ENY should be somewhere around 40 players online and it goes away.
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2026, 12:45:36 PM »
You seem to like Jugs. Next time you see me online, I invite you to join me in a ride along in a D-11 and maybe I can convince you that a crap plane can actually be a lot of fun?

But I agree that the threshold for ENY should be somewhere around 40 players online and it goes away.

D40 is one of my high eny go to planes. I should try the the 11… what do you like about it Mak?
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2026, 12:53:50 PM »
All for all sides having planes reduced to force the picking tempest into an actual turn fight...

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Re: ENY again
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2026, 01:23:42 PM »
D40 is one of my high eny go to planes. I should try the the 11… what do you like about it Mak?
D-11 is a bit different because it’s limited in acceleration, climb, and views. But it’s still stable at very high and very low speeds like all the jugs. It seems to have a very marginal flat turning advantage at medium speeds over the others because it’s a tiny bit lighter. The only significant difference (in my semi-professional opinion) is that the views are weak and you really need to be on your E management game. Once you scrub speed, it takes longer to get back and escape without an initial E advantage is not likely.

What do I like about it? It still a jug, flys like one, still competitive in the MA, and almost always available no matter how bad the ENY gets. Also, I can see the tears on the windscreen when I fly through Tempest and 262 scrap. Few feelings are better in MA than stealing a player’s perks in a 35 ENY bird.
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2026, 01:43:28 PM »
I will give it a try.
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2026, 02:52:56 PM »
I can't think of a single time I was ever limited by ENY.  I guess because a majority of the time I was in a 20+ ENY plane.  OH....and I was never on the largest side.
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2026, 03:05:03 PM »
My favorite highish eny planes: Mossie, LA5, P38J\G, P51B.
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2026, 03:29:33 PM »
"Crap" planes, or perhaps just planes that require a modicum of effort?

Some of us are lucky to even get 1 kill per sortie, yet some how manage to fly "crap" planes all the time.
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2026, 04:29:17 PM »
Maybe this might be helpful to consider.

In my current game planes all have a ranking same as AH3. Sometimes you get put in a match where all planes have the same ranking as you, sometimes the other planes are lower, sometimes they're higher.

I change my game play based on the match.

1: All enemy planes all ranked lower:
I attempt to go on a murderous rampage.

2: All enemy planes are ranked equal:
I attempt to do the same as 1 but pay attention to my energy and try not to get my self in over my head in the the furball or get caught low and slow.

3: All enemy planes are all ranked higher. (this is the one that I think applies here with ENY)
I consider myself to be the the food and fly defensively, only engage when I have a clear exit and don't get mixed up in the furball. This one requires me to pay attention and have some SA because there's no AWACs and you can get bounced especially if you have a low crew rating.


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Re: ENY again
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2026, 04:32:34 PM »
If this bothers people so much, why don’t they just switch countries?
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2026, 04:47:58 PM »
So in my example of the numbers, the low side had two players in flight. Each of the other two teams had about five or six players in flight.

So you're going to make everybody fly a crappy plane just for those two guys that are flying somewhere on a huge bellybutton map that you can't even reach them.

I'm fighting people getting gangbanged being forced to go to the bottom of the barrel plains to fly against them and then I get sick of it. It's not enjoyable. I think it absolutely sucks. When the numbers of that low get rid of eny. Do something about that. Doesn't make any sense at all.

It doesn't do a thing to balance the arena other than making people log off. And when there's 10 people online or 15 people online or 30 or whatever it is on a huge map, nobody's getting gangbanged anywhere.

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Re: ENY again
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2026, 04:49:14 PM »
So the game is killing the fun for everybody except for two players that are online doing God knows what. They can fly whatever planes they want and everybody else has to fly the worst planes so that those two jagoffs can have an enjoyable game experience?
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Re: ENY again
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2026, 04:54:36 PM »
jagoffs can have an enjoyable game experience?

Whatcha got against  jagoffs?

I would try to understand how you feel but since I rarely flew planes that were affected by eny, I'd be lyin if I said I did understand.

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Re: ENY again
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2026, 08:33:44 PM »
D-11 is a bit different because it’s limited in acceleration, climb, and views. But it’s still stable at very high and very low speeds like all the jugs. It seems to have a very marginal flat turning advantage at medium speeds over the others because it’s a tiny bit lighter. The only significant difference (in my semi-professional opinion) is that the views are weak and you really need to be on your E management game. Once you scrub speed, it takes longer to get back and escape without an initial E advantage is not likely.

What do I like about it? It still a jug, flys like one, still competitive in the MA, and almost always available no matter how bad the ENY gets. Also, I can see the tears on the windscreen when I fly through Tempest and 262 scrap. Few feelings are better in MA than stealing a player’s perks in a 35 ENY bird.


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