please allow us to vote and get rid of this crappy radar

[1Cane]

Please allow us to vote on this new radar either yay or nay. I will be voting nay. All you have to do is turn off your icons if you didn't like old radar


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[Animl-AW]

I think this is a good idea.
Viewing bbs opinions is deceiving. You’ll find some of the opinions do not always represent the masses.

That said. everything we have a choice of here they didn’t have a choice of in WWII. You just got something that help.

[Dadtallica]

I think this is a good idea.
Viewing bbs opinions is deceiving. You’ll find some of the opinions do not always represent the masses.

That said. everything we have a choice of here they didn’t have a choice of in WWII. You just got something that help.

What are these masses? At most maybe 200 people probably play this game a day uniquely and probably not even that many. And it’s the same 200 people every single day. same names same times same days same everything.

Aside from those that only wanna play squad operations or events. I don’t think there’s a very large delta between what’s in here and what’s out there daily. If there was, we wouldn’t be having a lot of discussions we do in here about numbers.

[Eagler]

My vote..keep it 

Eagler

[Rubicon]

My vote is aklso to keep it but I do understand some of the frustrations for people who relied on it for SA and now have a delayed view.  I think if some sort of 'approximate location' system can be implemented then it will help switch the mindset from real time AWACS display to WW2 relayed enemy numbers and location.

At no time in WW2 was any system able to tell you the exact location and heading of an enemy aircraft.  In the combat zone pilots needed to look around them.

However, this is a game and the intent of the radar is to help people find a fight so I get the need for compromise.  There are a number of options being discussed on the forums.

I would also liek to poitn out that with a less capable radar system low level NOE missions could become a possibility again and the excitement of air operations would increase IMO.

[Animl-AW]

What are these masses? At most maybe 200 people probably play this game a day uniquely and probably not even that many. And it’s the same 200 people every single day. same names same times same days same everything.

Aside from those that only wanna play squad operations or events. I don’t think there’s a very large delta between what’s in here and what’s out there daily. If there was, we wouldn’t be having a lot of discussions we do in here about numbers.

It’s a repeat

Thise who repel bbs. There are around 650-700 players. Not 15.

Half the sqd I’m in view bbs as the black plague. Not so distant past bbs was worse than bigweek.

[-gg-]

I love it when people think they know what's going on in the game just by what they read over here on these forums. Most people that play the game aren't on these forums.


Basically like three players started complaining about the radar and all the sudden we have big radar changes. Most people in the game didn't even realize what was going on and are confused by the whole thing.

[LilMak]

Keep it.

For the same reason you shouldn’t be able to vote for a Me163 with unlimited rounds, fuel, and a 35 ENY just for your chess piece. A vote now seems especially hollow since it ran players off who never got a vote.

You all have been spoiled by this magical radar so long that you’re behaving like drug addicts. Worst part is it is exactly the same. AWACS (or whatever you want to call it) is still here only the delay has changed. I know exactly why some of you need it so bad and it’s not to simply find the concentration of enemies. No matter what happens, radar should never go back to the a really short delay without some serious adjustments to the presentation or the overall elimination of every player as a radar tower. It was unbalancing the game.

For what it’s worth, I think the update rate within tower rings could be what it was. Mostly because that can be challenged in game by taking out the tower. But this thing where you use the clipboard for real time SA in a dogfight fight needed to end and I hope it continues.

[Animl-AW]

Keep it.

For the same reason you shouldn’t be able to vote for a Me163 with unlimited rounds, fuel, and a 35 ENY just for your chess piece. A vote now seems especially hollow since it ran players off who never got a vote.

You all have been spoiled by this magical radar so long that you’re behaving like drug addicts. Worst part is it is exactly the same. AWACS (or whatever you want to call it) is still here only the delay has changed. I know exactly why some of you need it so bad and it’s not to simply find the concentration of enemies. No matter what happens, radar should never go back to the a really short delay without some serious adjustments to the presentation or the overall elimination of every player as a radar tower. It was unbalancing the game.

For what it’s worth, I think the update rate within tower rings could be what it was. Mostly because that can be challenged in game by taking out the tower. But this thing where you use the clipboard for real time SA in a dogfight fight needed to end and I hope it continues.

You know where I stand

But this is your opinion,  kinda denying anyone else their own.

[Oldman731]

You all have been spoiled by this magical radar so long that you’re behaving like drug addicts. Worst part is it is exactly the same. AWACS (or whatever you want to call it) is still here only the delay has changed. I know exactly why some of you need it so bad and it’s not to simply find the concentration of enemies.

Possibly you can just give it a rest.  Some people might think your patronizing tone is offensive.

- oldman

[Dadtallica]

I like having the clipboard open for a variety of reasons it has a little even to do with the radar planes. What is the big deal about having the stupid clipboard open? What a weird thing to gate keep.

[Dadtallica]

I love it when people think they know what's going on in the game just by what they read over here on these forums. Most people that play the game aren't on these forums.


Basically like three players started complaining about the radar and all the sudden we have big radar changes. Most people in the game didn't even realize what was going on and are confused by the whole thing.

Nobody is confused about who is in here and who is not it’s just the Delta probably is not as big as everybody thinks it is. That’s my opinion. I don’t know what the hell is going on. I’m pretty clear in all my posts that I don’t know. It’s just my opinion based on the evidence presented.

You literally started another post about ENY claiming it was ruining everybody’s fun… but I’m the one who knows everything. You know about everybody’s fun that’s pretty cool. I’m just doing math with the numbers available and making hypothesis.

Also, let’s stop pretending it was just two people who got the dar change because if everything is correct in universe as I’m told in this place, there’s plenty of people out there playing who would’ve wanted it and plenty of people who left who did want it.

I’ve already gotten over it… would welcome it to go back to where it was or less and hopefully the fading icons alleviate that want.

[nrshida]

What happened? I missed the memo. New MA radar?

[thndregg]

Just a repeat of the other thread.

I remember working with the dot dar back in the day. It was fine enough for me. I had to keep up my own SA to determine where, and what kind of aircraft I could be dealing with long before it entered icon range. Tactical radio and text communication was also a strong part of the SA with other players, and that was all part of the sense of realism that was a draw for me.

Then came the updated, convenient, "too modern for 1940's" "tell all" dar. Well.... okay. Not a fan, but I rolled with it.

I'm fine with this less-frequent-update dar as it brings me back..  at least a little closer .. to the more realistic SA I practiced 20 years ago.

If the game can still be playable, taking into account that some of us are old and not as keen regarding our vision, and yet still convey at least a sense of 1940's technological inconvenience, I'm okay with it. It's part of the suspense that still puts me at the edge of my seat, scanning the skies, anticipating a fight. I like it. 

[Eagler]

What happened? I missed the memo. New MA radar?

It now refreshes every 20 seconds instead of what I thought was immediate before..

It actually brings SA and ACM back into the game..

I think I need to buy a Snoopy red baron silk scarf to keep my neck from chafing from it being on a swivel more now than I can remember...

Eagler