Author Topic: HTC.. What is up with AA? (Read 1090 times)

Midnight · « **on:** July 25, 2001, 01:35:00 PM »

(Read this as a whine if you want, but this is getting lame)

And when is it going to be fixed?

I am getting tired of 20mm and 40mm single ping wing / tail loss or just death while I am flying past AA at over 350MPH TAS.

Why is it that an N1K can come to a field and lazily turn around and though AA, methodically killing each one without being shot down?

Why is it a B-17 can fly over a VH at less than 500 feet and not be shot down? (Saw this happen yesterday after pinging up the B17 and left him go for AA to finish the job)

Why is it a TBM can fly at 2000 feet, straight and level through all AA at a Large field and not be shot down?

I am getting so frustrated by this garbage that the AA can't hit jack when it's low and slow, but when you fly a Mustang near it at 350 or so, it single pings you and you loose major components.

It just happened to me 2x at A29.
I was at 10k, started a dive, fired rockets at 8k, killed ammo and 1 AA gun, began a climbout and right turn, BANG half right wing shot off!

Second hop, attacking a spit near the deck, can't get kill shot, turn to SE corner AA to kill it as I go past at 400 TAS, BANG entire right wing shot off!

Something really needs to be done. It makes it very un-enjoyable when I keep seeing this same kind of BS every time.

DeeZCamp · « **Reply #1 on:** July 25, 2001, 01:43:00 PM »

reminds me of the Guided lazer ACK from 10K and up.. lol

I can be around 30k doing 450 IAS and pass over a field.. or even 10 miles SOUTH of a field,, and BOOM.. 1 ping death.. or always... 1 ping engine gone

maybe its a part of the flight model ?

but how would I know anyway oh well

Paxil · « **Reply #2 on:** July 25, 2001, 01:51:00 PM »

I don't know if anything is wrong or not... but I have noticed that I die to flak bursts a lot easier in a P51 than in other planes. I have also noticed as a field gunner at times I can't hit planes... they fly straight at me from 3K to over my head with me firing straight at them the entire time... and I don't hit them. Also, but probably unrelated is the LVTs that you can continually fire right through but not hit near the shore line.

Baddawg · « **Reply #3 on:** July 25, 2001, 02:03:00 PM »

I a firm believer that I have been cursed by Flak ever since my multi-vulch AW days.
Bad Karma

StSanta · « **Reply #4 on:** July 25, 2001, 03:00:00 PM »

T&B'ers have a much easier time deack and surviving acks.

Speed is not protectio. Twisting and turning is, even if it's at speeds at 150mh.

In 109F8, I often die deacking a field. In Zeke, i can lazily turn around right over the field taking out acks with ease.

Severly biased weird ack at the moment.

I prefer the old ones.

Vruth · « **Reply #5 on:** July 25, 2001, 04:30:00 PM »

I think the solution is to turn off AI AAA. Force players to man the guns to defend an airfield.

That way, it becomes a country effort to defend a threatened airfield and not having to rely on AI to shoot down aircraft.

Current AI gunners are either too damn stupid or too damn good. No grey area of just average...

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AKSWulfe · « **Reply #6 on:** July 25, 2001, 04:36:00 PM »

Well, I bet it taught you all to stay out of the ack.

-SW

Tac · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2001, 05:48:00 PM »

A simple solution: make all AI ack be .303 and let the HUMAN PLAYERS man the 37 and 40mm.

No more single ping kill, running to ack will not be very effective anymore.

To make up for the lack in firepower, just add MORE .303 acks. Id say if a small field has 20 .303 it'd be good. any single strafer would get some damage or be shot down by that mass of lead...specially at short range.

Robert · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2001, 06:50:00 PM »

I did some test and tried to be as accurate as i possible could. I took a F4u-c up to 10k dove to 400 ias and 2.5k alt flew strait and level down the runway of a field and not a single ping at all. Did the same with a p-51. I never even got close to the field and i was shot down. I Tried this 20 times with both planes. F4U made it throught all 20 times , P-51 never made it through not once. I usually try to stay away from post like this but i had to step in on this one.

RWY

xHaMmeRx · « **Reply #9 on:** July 25, 2001, 07:10:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Robert:
I did some test and tried to be as accurate as i possible could. I took a F4u-c up to 10k dove to 400 ias and 2.5k alt flew strait and level down the runway of a field and not a single ping at all. Did the same with a p-51. I never even got close to the field and i was shot down. I Tried this 20 times with both planes. F4U made it throught all 20 times , P-51 never made it through not once. I usually try to stay away from post like this but i had to step in on this one.

RWY

Now THAT is very interesting and disturbing!

Replicant · « **Reply #10 on:** July 25, 2001, 07:10:00 PM »

Same with Typhoon, I know for a fact that if I fly around 250mph and below I should be safe, but at higher speeds, and especially around 550mph (from dive) I know for a fact that I'll lose my tail... always. Surely speed must help?

Regards

Nexx

Hangtime · « **Reply #11 on:** July 25, 2001, 08:17:00 PM »

Now ain't THAT interesting!!

I'm able to deack a field with a light pony.. but only slowly. Fast passes gets me killed.

Midnight · « **Reply #12 on:** July 25, 2001, 10:04:00 PM »

Well I am glad that some of you also see these very strange things with AA.

RWY.. Thank you for taking the time to do such a test. I think that we can all trust your results as factual. Nice job.

DanielMcIntyre · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2001, 07:35:00 AM »

ahhh, was wondering what was up with that too.

Airscrew · « **Reply #14 on:** July 26, 2001, 03:00:00 PM »

Bad idea to have us man the guns at the base for defense, Lazs wont like it, all he wants to do is fly, and that would just spoil the game for him. Why not just give all the AI poor eyesight.