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Offline Airscrew

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« on: July 26, 2001, 02:53:00 PM »
Fighters are unnecessary in AH,  they just get in the way and keep me from getting good bombing scores.   They are constantly shooting me down.   About the only thing they are good for is shooting down which is real fun.  Sometimes I take up a buff just for the action. You guys fall all over yourselfs trying to get to me.  I like watching your wings fall off and see you spin to earth.  Then I bomb your silly little fighter hangers so you cant fly no more.  Yea eventually you get me but atleast I hurt your base and took a few of you with me.  We need more bombers Axis and Allies.  
Also when do we get the A-Bomb!!!

Offline Apache

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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2001, 03:04:00 PM »
Ya know, you're right. I mean, how dare HiTech put fighters in an air to air combat sim. We all know that buffs are the primary focus of Aces High.

Offline Maniac

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2001, 02:34:00 AM »
LoL!

Where is Lazs  :)

Good troll mate hehe
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Offline lazs1

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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2001, 09:06:00 AM »
well cheer up... look at the good side.  at least htc understands and has made sure that you can effect the fighter war without them being able to effect the bombing war.   I mean after all... a few concessions need to be made for bombers.   well... maybe more than a "few" but you get the idea.
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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2001, 09:14:00 PM »
laz,

I think that if you shoot down a bomber that has just spent 35 minutes climbing you've affected his war.

That is how fighters affect the bomber war.

Do it before he drops his bombs and you've affected his war without him affecting the fighter war.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2001, 10:01:00 PM »
ooooh, atom bomb.  now that would be FUN.

Offline lazs1

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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2001, 08:24:00 AM »
karnak... no.  the suicide, semi comatose lamer can still just take right off again.  "shoot him down"  what a waste of time in a sim that has realistic targets.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2001, 02:14:00 PM »
Laz,

Sure, he take right off again, but it'll take him 35 minutes to get back to where he was.

In truth, I think that the best things to do damage to airfields with are P-47D-25s, P-47D-30s, P-38Ls, F4U-1Ds, F4U-1Cs and F6F-5s.  All of those can carry more than 2,000lbs of ordinance, and only spend 7 to 10 minutes to get to the target, plus their guns add even more damage.  You can do 3 or 6 trips in one of those fighters in the time it takes a B-17 or Lancaster to do 1 trip.

The most effective method to shut down an enemy airfield is to get 6-10 of those American fighters and attack the target simultaneously.
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Offline SirLoin

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2001, 09:00:00 AM »
How about HT put some dams in strategic locations so we can drop that bouncing bomb from a Lanc?.. :)
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Offline lazs1

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2001, 09:04:00 AM »
u can carry bombs on a fighter?   Why would anyone want to do that?   It would make em slow and clumsy.
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Offline Urchin

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2001, 09:08:00 AM »
Mostly because they get back to normal after you drop the bombs  ;).  And unless you have the crap German tube rockets, or the odd American ones like on the P47D25, the rockets don't affect performance after they've been fired either, at least not to my knowledge.  And finally, because at 2.5k a pop (plus rockets)- it only takes 3 P47s to do the work a B17 does.  Well, actually they can do more damage, because they have rockets to.  I WANT ROCKETS FOR THE B17!!!

Offline Hooligan

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2001, 10:04:00 AM »
I know that it is unintentional but there are some good points here.

Fighters really do just muck up the strat system.  The obvious solution is to create 2 MAs.  In one no norden-equipped-bombers are allowed and in the other no fighters are allowed.

Of course in the no-bomber arena, players who want to attack tactical ground targets will be forced to use tactical attack aircraft (i.e. fighters and sturmoviks) instead of using AH's pinpoint accuracy buffs (which in real life occasionally had difficulty hitting Berlin-sized targets).

No doubt the players will flock to the strat-bomber-centric arena.

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Offline lazs1

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2001, 01:28:00 PM »
LOL..... no doubr.
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