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Offline fdiron

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« on: January 16, 2002, 02:33:24 AM »
What if there were just 2 countries, Bishops (Allieds) and rooks (Axis).  Would it be feasible to turn off the arena icons then?  I think this would be pretty neat.  Instead of friendly and enemy icons with range finder, you would have to identify the silohuette of the aircraft to determine whether its friend or foe, and then judge the proper range to open fire.  Maybe something like this could be done in the CT (though if I had my way it would be done in the MA haha).

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2002, 06:50:09 AM »
All icons off as a host setting would be a most marvelous facility to have for such events as WW.

Supposing, of course, the event survives in it's current inept state.

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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2002, 11:25:06 AM »
NO ICON can be fun and is unquestionably more difficult, but don't fool yourself.  NO ICON is even more unrealistic than AH's ICONS.  That said, there should be a setting to disable them.

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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2002, 11:38:08 AM »
You do have a setting JAB.,...cycle through CNTRL+I and you can get no icons.  As far as a no icon setting for events, it cant be done yet.  We dont have the tools for that yet.

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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2002, 11:47:06 AM »
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Supposing, of course, the event survives in it's current inept state.


What's the matter with Wild Wednesday?  Too much fun for ya?


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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2002, 12:27:20 PM »
The problem with disabling icons is that people with crappy equipment get doubly screwed, as they don't have the resolution to identify aircraft types until they are very close.

How about an icon that was just a tiny little green or red dot above the aircraft?

Offline J_A_B

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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2002, 12:47:46 PM »
"How about an icon that was just a tiny little green or red dot above the aircraft?"

How about going outside once in awhile and looking around at how far you can actually SEE.   Not only can the naked eye easily distinguish between a P-47 and an Me-109 at a distance of 3.5 miles (6000 yards), you can also determine whether they're comming or going and even tell how far away they are whithin a couple hundred yards.   The human eye is a truly amazing thing.

Like it or not, you have a "lazer range finder" built into your head.

Heck, I can do all that with my crappy bad eyes. (roughly 25/40 vision)  Someone with good eyes--like almost all fighter pilots--can probably do even better than I can, especially since they're TRAINED in aircraft recognition and practice it.

AH's graphics are almost the opposite of reality.  In AH about the only way you have of telling aircraft apart at ranges of over a mile is color.  In the REAL WORLD (something that a lot of computer players forget about), color greys out over distance and the SHAPE of an aircraft is the easiest means of identifying it.  Not so in AH, the resolution and size on a computer screen just doesn't permit it.

A lot of people ask for greatly reduced ICONS or NO ICONS, but forget just how good the human eye actually is.  The fact is, NO ICONS might be fun for some people, but it is artifically difficult almost to the point of being silly.  Don't confuse difficulty with realism.

One thing about the ICONS in AH that I would like to see though, is for the ICONS to automatically switch to SHORT-RANGE (3000 yards) once you fly inside a storm.  In a storm, with swirling rain, visibility should obviously be reduced.  The naked eye can see pretty well through clear skies, but inside a raging storm is a different matter completely.  Likewise, at night ICONS should be reduced.  

J_A_B

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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2002, 01:09:01 PM »
"What's the matter with Wild Wednesday? Too much fun for ya? "

It's dying, hadn't you noticed?

It's become the same riproaring success the CT has come to represent.

I feel for Hazed.

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2002, 01:23:13 PM »
"It's dying, hadn't you noticed?"

 Well I heard that it's a screaming success in Fighter Ace. They even have a "Deathbowl" arena to hold it in.  Only they call it "Deathmatch" not Wild Wednesday or King of the Hill.

http://www.zone.com/fighterace/news/tblteventsdb2001.asp

 Perhaps different games have players with different tastes and needs? Or maybe WW just needs more time and some changes and it'll be sure to come around and be a hit.  Kind of like the CT perhaps?

  Westy

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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2002, 01:55:09 PM »
You mean like KOTH was?

What comes after re-inventing the wheel, a better mouse trap?

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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2002, 03:38:13 PM »
"What comes after re-inventing the wheel, a better mouse trap?"

 If AH needs a mouse trap? Then maybe.

 If McDonalds were to go out of business tommorow does that mean all other restaraunts must begin selling "Happy Meals"?

  Westy
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