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Offline AKSWulfe

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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2002, 06:52:35 PM »
I see, my mistake. I will edit it.

Can easily confuse "mommy and me" with mother's day...
EDIT: and since that was a school sponsored event, I can see why you would want it changed.
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« Last Edit: January 17, 2002, 06:55:19 PM by AKSWulfe »
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2002, 06:57:47 PM »
OK, seriously now.

I dont know what the big deal is about all this gay fear. Its not a sickness. If you consider yourself straight, you shouldnt feel threatned by homosexuals at all (unless they try to rape you?)
I used to be prety critical of homsexuals before I worked at a restaurant in an area with high gay concentration.
I met a few homsexuals there. They are mostly normal people. They are not out there to corrupt your childrens mind or your own. They mostly want to be let alone.

We have hundreds of channels of our interest. Why cant gays have a channel for them to watch? Christ, its a damn pay channel, you dont get it unless you want to.
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2002, 06:59:58 PM »
We already have Lifetime, MTV, VH1 and Showtime Animal.. do they need anymore channels?!?!?!?! ;)
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2002, 07:01:50 PM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
There will be a Gay Parents day sooner or later, in fact I belive some uppity progressive schools allready have them.....

Ok lets have it, I say very un PC thing.......


GRUNHERZ you're a Golly-geen card carrying, white sheet, pointy hat wearing NAZI!!!!


The damn day was called Mommy and Me for cryin' out loud.  No one said it was Mother's Day.  Now if there had also been a Daddy and Me day it wouldn't have been such a big deal.  But there wasn't.  It was exclusionary.

But we don't want to rock the boat do we...I mean...I mean what would people think.  

Tar Gut had his children's backs.  For those of you that wouldn't do the same for thier children...get your priorities straight.
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2002, 07:05:56 PM »
You are basically saying you are understanding of how gays can feel left out. While your example was not Mother's Day, you made the remark in defense of those that would change Mother's Day. You then gave a sermon on how we have to become more tolerant.

Still, you did change a school holiday because of your individual discomfort. The obvious thing to do would have been to refuse to participate- ironically, that would have been "tolerant". Nope, let's change it instead.

In Indiana we have "take your daughter to work" day. But wait, what if some boy gets upset he doesn't get to go to work that day? We should dump the occasion! Of course, the intent is to help girls understand the need to stay in school and to become professional, but no, that isn't fair to the boys. Nevermind girls begin to lag behind academically by high school age because of peer and societal pressure.

I have been ridiculed and criticized here for my religious beliefs- and you know what? That's ok, I don't expect people to believe as I do necessarily, though I will happily discuss it. What I would never deign to do is to walk into any business or institution and tell them they needed to change for lil ol me.

I am not necessarily anti-Gay; I am totally against any gay agenda that has as its aim turning homosexuality into a social norm. I am against any reform that forces me to tell kids it's ok to be gay just as I would be against telling them promiscuous heterosexual sex is ok. I refuse. I swear, the day I am forced to do that is the day I walk out of the class and never return.
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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2002, 07:06:36 PM »
...You are right Wulfie. I forgot MTV.
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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2002, 07:11:04 PM »
Spare me. I work for a public school. I see every day how we dance like puppets on strings pulled by ever-changing puppeteers. We get pulled this way, we get pulled that way, and then get criticized for not having the guts to take a stand. Tahgut's example is a perfect illustration of the powerlessness of public schools. It is without doubt the single most frustrating aspect of my job.

It is amazing for all the preaching about tolerance he had so little.
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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2002, 07:13:14 PM »
Thrawn, Tah Gut was referring to me. I edited my post though, because I incorrectly read Mother's Day from Mommy and Me... Might of been because another person mentions the removal of Mother's Day in a certain school in this thread.

I'm not sure, but I think Grun was replying to my post which has since been edited.

However, you must realise something Thrawn, you do more to hurt your children if you get something removed so they don't get their feelings hurt. In this case, I was mistaken- I thought Tah Gut meant Mother's Day, but he was referring to a school sponsored event.  However, if you remove Mother's Day because it may hurt your children's or remove Father's Day because of the same thing, well you are really damaging them. At the very least, you are teaching them that certain things that have been the same way for the past (I dunno how long those two days have been around for) number of years can be changed for you... not for the larger part of society... just for you.

For the record, I did not have a mom in my house from the age of 8 or 9, and I have not had a mom since I was 13. My dad is very straight if you are wondering by this point. If you are confused, I can clear it up if you want. I never asked for things to get changed for me, I didn't care. Of course, this was several years ago- everything's different now. You have to tip toe around everything in case you could possibly offend someone.
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« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2002, 07:41:47 PM »
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Thrawn, Tah Gut was referring to me. I edited my post though, because I incorrectly read Mother's Day from Mommy and Me... Might of been because another person mentions the removal of Mother's Day in a certain school in this thread.


Sorry about that, I was writing my post as you were correcting yours.

"However, you must realise something Thrawn, you do more to hurt your children if you get something removed so they don't get their feelings hurt."

How's that?


And Kieran

So the people who are going to help shape the minds of my children are going to be my puppets...good!:D
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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2002, 07:56:34 PM »
Um... remember when they closed this thread?  I believe that meant we should all shut up... :)

And Grunherz, I truly did not intend to insult your parents.  At least not yet.  I'd have to meet them to be sure.
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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2002, 07:57:34 PM »
Thrawn im a what again? I donno I have an NRA card if that counts?

Well think of how all the children without gay parents must feel on Gay Parents day???? :)

Anyway I agree with Tahgut they should just call it Parents Day or maybe Family Day or something generaly inclusive and harmless .


I wonder what it is I just said that will make somebody mad? Dont let me down, find it fast! Then call me bad names.....  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2002, 07:58:27 PM »
Apology accepted Kratzer. Thank You.
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2002, 08:01:39 PM »
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Anyway I agree with Tahgut they should just call it Parents Day or maybe Family Day or something generaly inclusive and harmless .


I wonder what it is I just said that will make somebody mad? Dont let me down, find it fast! Then call me bad names.....  :rolleyes:


What about the poor lil' orphans...you freaking facist!!
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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2002, 08:05:31 PM »
Yup, Thrawn, remember the next time you march into a school with little Johnny in tow, howling your head off, you'll probably get your way- until Benny's mom walks in and wants the opposite.
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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2002, 08:08:15 PM »
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Yup, Thrawn, remember the next time you march into a school with little Johnny in tow, howling your head off, you'll probably get your way- until Benny's mom walks in and wants the opposite.


Well yeah....but I can kick Benny's mom's ass.;)

I understand Kieran and I imagine the it's hell on the teachers.
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