Author Topic: Kill stealing (Read 428 times)

Tjay · « **on:** January 18, 2002, 02:19:54 PM »

New thread 'cos the other one was getting overlong.
If someone seriously damages an nme to the extent of blowing large bits off it, won't they be awarded the kill regardless of anyone subsequently taking potshots at the falling wreckage. I confess to having fired a short burst into a a 'dead' plane on the odd occasion just out of frustration at not being the one to kill it. I wasn't trying to steal the other guys kill - I assumed by that time it was already his. But if that's bad form I won't do it in future.

Btw, if anyone sees me in a 1 v 1 situation, regardless of who appears to have the advantage, please don't stand on ceremony - come and give me a hand. I am probably scared cheeseless, low on fuel and nearly out of ammo. If you get the kill, you are very welcome and I'm happy if I get an assist!

JimBear · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2002, 02:26:35 PM »

Have shot the wing off of a B17 at 20k, climb up and look over my shoulder and see a "friendly" dive in and follow the plane 15k down shooting at it the whole way....he got the kill (that was the most blatant steal I have seen, but it was sorta funny)

C'est la Guerre

Tjay · « **Reply #2 on:** January 18, 2002, 02:43:33 PM »

Didn't realise that could happen. Not right, surely? But I won't do it any more just in case...

K West · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2002, 02:43:44 PM »

If the enemy "pilot" rides his wreckage down and a friendly persues him, after you've broken off, the friendly can still kill the enemy "pilot" (aka PK) and get the kill award. A "PK" is the highest damage you can do.

So the moral is; Make them "pop"! Because then there are no scraps for the hyenas to squabble over.

Westy

MrLars · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2002, 03:02:17 PM »

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Originally posted by K West

So the moral is; Make them "pop"! Because then there are no scraps for the hyenas to squabble over.

Westy

I think the best thing to do is hope and whine for refinement of the damage model so that as soon as a bird is unflyable the kill is awarded. The stealing is getting so bad in the MA that even vets from well known squads are doing it

muckmaw · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2002, 03:12:03 PM »

I can understand the frustration of those having kills stolen from them.

Personally, I could care less if some moron wants to waste his ammo, fuel, and E chasing a dead bird, just to get another notch in his belt.

No matter what my score, I fly away with the satisfaction of knowing I got the kill.

Perfect example. My favorite kill of all time was not even a kill. I was flying a B-26 on a mission when we were jumped by an Me-262.

Surprisingly enough, I survived the first pass, and was able to line up a shot with my top turret. I put enough rounds into him to see 2 trails of smoke coming out of his engines. I expected to see him descend into the ground, but he somehow maintained control and disengaged. A gaggle of friendly fighters (who came out of nowhere) chased the wounded 262 out of sight.

Did I get the kill. Nope. Did I ping up an ace? Maybe. Did I save my own bellybutton against the hottest ride in AH? Damn right.

Best un-kill I ever got.

K West · « **Reply #6 on:** January 18, 2002, 03:13:16 PM »

Oh, I agree Lars. 100%. But in the meantime....

Westy

Kratzer · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2002, 03:19:34 PM »

If you drive a pony, making them go pop isn't too big a deal, but if you fly something like a 109, you don't really have the luxury of spending a lot of ammo.

K West · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2002, 03:23:29 PM »

Well I usually fly a Yak. What I wouldn't DO for the ammo load of a 109

MrLars · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2002, 04:55:09 PM »

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Originally posted by K West
Oh, I agree Lars. 100%. But in the meantime....

Westy

Yep...we just have to suck it up and just shake our heads at the truly "gifted" kill stealers

Wlfgng · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2002, 05:14:21 PM »

I fly a 109 a lot.. just take a potato gun...

usually takes like 2 pings then BLAM

Tjay · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2002, 06:01:49 AM »

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Originally posted by MrLars

I think the best thing to do is hope and whine for refinement of the damage model so that as soon as a bird is unflyable the kill is awarded. The stealing is getting so bad in the MA that even vets from well known squads are doing it

Hear, hear. (HTC - any comment?)

qts · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2002, 06:24:50 AM »

The obvious retort is, "If a plane's still flying, it's not been killed." I've landed bombers with significant damage - eg the Fortress was famous for its capacity to fly when damaged.

Indeed it's actually a lot of fun trying to land a damaged plane, especially when you've got a couple of killstealers on your tail. About two weeks ago I was in a Lanc after an aborted bombing run with severe damage - two engines out, some control surfaces missing, yada. I'd jettisoned the bombs to lighten me and was running for home. I winged one plane from the rear turret but I was saved on two occasions simply because friendly fighters were coming my way and the 'killstealers' didn't want to chance it.

From another time: 'Umm... I've got no flaps. OK, I'll open the bomb doors instead.'

Should there be Perkies for landing damaged planes?

K West · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2002, 07:23:40 AM »

"..just shake our heads at the truly "gifted" kill stealers "

Until HTC changes the system that's about all we can do. I tend to mock them. Talks down to them a bit and tell them if they're good, rollover, then situp and speak I'd get them another bone to play with.

SOB · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2002, 09:15:49 AM »

Tards. What ever happened to the satisfaction in a job well done. Why, when I was a kid . . .

If anyone would like to finish off any flaming wreckages I leave plummeting to the ground, you're welcome to them. Hell, they deserve it for getting killed by a dweeb like me anyhow. I may give you toejam just for the sake of giving you toejam, but I promise not to pee my pants and get all emotional on ya. On the other hand, if they happen to bail before you get to the wreckage . . . STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM MY CHUTE!

That is all.

SOB