Rolling plane set or Differentiated fields?

[Geeesy]

JAB you just dont get it, do you? Well maybe you just dont want to realize it, but HTC is going to implement some early war planes. If you read pyros news post through youll maybe see theres written something about filling out the holes in the planeset, and I dont think its meant to be done with those 5 planes promised for 1.09. Well modelling only one aircraft is alot of work, why should HTC do that if they would be used maybe just 1 or maybe 2 times in a month? (of course not all events and CT setups will then be early war, will they?)

Well the Me-262 was build to shoot down buffs, but P51 drivers also had to deal with the fact they could have to mess up with some 262's in an air combat, as well as they would have with La-7 if russia wouldnt have been their allied. But how likely was it for an 109E to run into a Spit 9? Both, the spit 9 and the 109E were built to dominate the skies over the english channel, but heck what would the 109E in AH dominate in if there will be no changings in the gameplay at some point, no matter if thats an RPS, other Perk system or Plane availability at certain fields. Ok maybe there would be one or two lunatics flying the 109E or Spit 1 or Hurri 1 whatever, but these 2 guys would most likely never run into each other, due they get chased down before by nearly *anything* that is available in the planeset right now. You dont even need a good pilot in the later planes in order to give the guy in this elder crate one hell of a ride. Oh and sorry thats no whining thats just giving you back your point why the 262 is perked for good reason, because as much as those who dont want to fly the 262 everytime in order to have some chance to get a kill after all some people also may like to not HAVE TO fly the newer planes of the planeset in order to be able to see something in their gunsight from time to time.

P.S.:
- There were and are other flightsims before AH, yes.
- In some there is a rolling planeset for years, yes.
- They are going to go down because of their RPS ideas, no.
- AW and WB (if your oracle will fit) are/were brought down by their management, yeeeehes.
- Think about that also ideas which dont originate from AH may be good and well thought on, due to some experience of the communities there...

[J_A_B]

AH Urchin, it's so nice to read a good post      

And I too agree COMPLETELY that the guys who like Spit 1's and 109E's and such early-war planes should have a place to fly them uninterrupted by the late-model hotrods.  I just do NOT want this place to be the same MA I fly in--a second arena would be perfect.  As long as the MA is the only viable arena for AH though, I don't feel there should be restrictions unless absolutely necessary--they at least CAN fly their choice airplane, as opposed to having it totally unavailable most the time.

The CT is a poor example as a second arena because the setup in there is terrible.  The CT is a good example of what NOT to do to make an arena generate mass appeal.  The CT team seems to have the best of intentions, but they need to move on to something more viable. Unless, of course, they're content with current CT usage.

While I agree that the 51D is better than the Hurri, I think there's a bit of difference there between that matchup and any propeller plane versus the 262.  I think a competent Hurricane pilot stands a fair chance of success if he flies the plane in such a way as to minimize its drawbacks.....but anything with a propeller is nothing but dead meat in an arena full of jets.  I know this from experience.   Still, people like yourself who LIKE the 262 are stuck paying massive amounts of perks.....just isn't fair really.   I wish someone could think of a better way to do it.


Mr. Geese forgets that, even with an RPS, a lot of planes will almost never be used in the MA.  Like it or not, some aircraft are always going to be "hangar queens" in the MA.  Look at the Yak-9U for example--it's a late war hotrod with excellent performance that sees almost no usage anyway.  The Ki-61 is never going to see much use either because by the 1943 date of its introduction it was already obsolete by European standards.  

Why not join forces with me in recommending the opening of a second MA with RPS in place?  Rather than trying to exclude everyone who doesn't agree with you, why not argue in favor of a setup that makes everyone happy?

J_A_B

[Geeesy]

Well I saw how iEN tried to make up seperate arenas with minor success. Either the new arena died out after a short period of enjoyment to the new or (as with the WW2 arena with some more realistic setup) the old MA died shortly after the opening of the other more appealing arena. So I think if you guys want to think about a change in any way to satisfy as much people as possible to have their favourite rides as long as possible you should concentrate this effort on one arena only. Well ok maybe youre right and im totally wrong JAB, I would be glad if HTC would proof me so.

[Urchin]

Oh, I agree that there will ALWAYS be hanger queens.  Some planes that were quite good historically won't be good because the MA environment is just to different from what they were designed for (the Ta-152 would be a good example if it had been mass produced).  

For the masses here, I actually agree with Jab.  It really stinks to limit anyones choice for any reason.  I think that a seperate MA with a rolling planeset is a good idea, I'm just not sure that AH has the population to support it (or rather, I'm not sure enough people in AH support the idea of a RPS to open a second MA just for that reason).   He is also right about another thing- there will ALWAYS be a 'uber' plane, no matter what the time period is.  Depending on where the RPS is, you will see a LOT of different planes.  For instance, 1939 to 1940 will see 109E's and Spits, to the exclusion of just about everything else, because they really were the best planes of that era.  1941-42 would probably see a lot of 190A use, because it was THE dominant plane during that time.  I'd say 1943-44 would probably be the most 'diverse' time of all, with a lot of the planes in the MA being popular during this time (N1K, P51D,La-7,Tiffie).. and of course 1945 would be the week of the 262.  

Even an RPS won't really solve the problem of 'diversity' in the MA.  The only person who can enforce any kind of diversity is YOU, by flying a plane that is somewhat uncommon, even if it isnt the 'best' plane available.  You have a choice to make.  Your first option is to min-max, and go for the plane that offers you the most advantages with the fewest disadvantages.. or you can be an individual and pick a plane, and deal with your choice.  (by the way, the YOU refers to anyone reading this, not anyone in particular).