POLL: Why don't YOU join missions?

[Midnight]

For those that join mission.. Thank you..
For those that don't join... WHY?

Please list a few reasons why you don't join missions.

MA history shows that coordinated mission get the fastest results. Why not become part of a team? Why do you fly alone and attack seperate? Be Serious.. I really want to know

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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"

Midnight
13th TAS

"I see you have made your decision. Now let's see you enforce it." -Brandon Lee (The Crow)

[Pepino]

In my particular case, the one and only reason is that it passes unnoticed, or I am already engaged in another one. Somebody asked for a special colour for mission announcements. I strongly support this.

Cheers,

Pepe

[LePaul]

Same here, usually someone pops the "I have a Mission Up" questions just as I've leveled the Lancaster to 22,000 feet.  And as y'all know, that screamer of a bomber just jumps to altitude, yes?  (No!  Hehe..takes 30 minutes or more!)

Or...if I do join, there isn't enough people in there to make it worth while.

You're right, when you get a bunch of folks into a mission, and they stick to it, its amazing.  I was flying with Knights a few weeks back and we steamrollered several bases in that fashion.  Really pretty for shoulder-surfers to watch too.

Paul
 http://bd5.checksix.net
First flight Summer of 2001 (we hope!)

[Westy]

 First simple reason: TIME.

 Second simple reason:  Someone's misson may not interest me.
 
   -Westy

[Maverick]

My schedule prevents me from joining. I am generally not on at the right time or for a long enough time to even complete one.  

Mav

[Saintaw]

2 Reasons : I'm cruising somewhere already, or just sometimes I log on for 20-30 mnutes break, I then have no time for Mission.

they usualy are a blast tho  

Saw

[Kieren]

I've said it before, and say it again:

• Sometimes I have only a small amount of time.
• Sometimes I see an immediate need that must be covered before another (yes, if in my ignorance I think keeping a particular base alive is necessary, I will try)
• The person posting the mission becomes irate and obnoxious about what I am doing, and says "why won't you do something worthwhile?"
• I'm currently engaged in an absorbing session of what I like to call "fun", and the rest of the MA means nothing to me.

While you state that with teamwork you can accomplish more than alone, and you may be right by your way of thinking, it can completely go against my idea or time restraint. I don't necessarily need someone telling me what how to have fun, or even that I am not having fun. That is perhaps my biggest gripe about the whole "strat-only" argument.

[sling322]

I have no problem with people getting their fun their own way in the MA.  If ya wanna furball.....then by all means, furball.  The thing that pisses me off is hearing people squeak about a lack of coordination while we are being rolled up, and then when you post a mission to stop the bleeding and try to slow the advance of the enemy, nobody joins.  

If ya wanna furball and have fun, then do it.  But dont start complaining when we are down to 3 bases and have no radar and all of our factories are dead.

[Zippatuh]

 

Originally posted by Saintaw:
2 Reasons : I'm cruising somewhere already, or just sometimes I log on for 20-30 mnutes break, I then have no time for Mission.

they usualy are a blast tho  

Saw

Same here.

I saw Kieren's post also and would have to say I agree on the defense part.  There are sometimes that I find myself in a position to be the only, or one of the few that are defending an air or vehicle base.  I get the most enjoyment out of the game when I know that I am being a huge thorn in someone’s side.  I can just imagine the radio chatter… “Will someone please kill that guy, damn it’s just one guy”.  Now insert hysterical laughter on my end.  

I do enjoy seeing all the yellow nametags in the air headed for a target and being part of it.  I suppose a suggestion would be adding the ability to join missions in flight that would log as a successful landing.  Criteria would have to be that a mission exists, of course, and I would also think the damage level on your ride be at zero.  The later to stop my opponent from leaving my sights after I have the better of em.  Just a thought.


Zippatuh

[Midnight]

I think you all missed the point. I realize time is an issue with some. I realize some may already be in flight somewhere. If it doesn't intrest you.. well that's ok too.

BTW: I for one announce my mission postings several times on country channel in ALL CAPS. I even explain target and objectives... I doubt anyone misses my announcements.

What I am talking about is those that DO have time and are (for lack of a better word) TRYING to capture a field or sink a CV or destroy a factory, etc.

Why do those people continue to aimlessly fly into a hot engagement zone, one at a time, like lambs to the slaughter?

EXAMPLE: CV IS OFF THE COAST
Countless TBMs, JU88s and PT Boats head out in an effort to kill the CV. As each of them comes into range one-by-one, they are picked off by 5" guns, other PT boats and nearby fighters, one-by-one.

If there is a posted Mission with the Objective being to sink that CV, why not join it? Then you will be flying/driving in to target with (let's say around 10) other players, all with the same goal. Sure, some will be killed, but success is much more probable.

The other day I posted a mission to capture a small field. About 60% of the available spots were filled. From mission launce to field capture was about 8 minutes (That's how long the flight took for the C-47)

We did come against opposition, but we were coordinated in the effort. ALL the bombers got there at the same time and had assigned targets that were all leveled in less than 3 minutes of their arrival. Fighters had bombs and rockets and took out small field supports than climbed back to altitiude for cover. C-47 showed up a few minutes later and the field was ours. Quick, easy and practical.

In un-coordinated efforts, we end up fighting the same field for hours while scattered bombers hit various hangers and AA. A lone goon comes in and gets shot up at the last second, or the AA or VH comes back up or whatever. Sure, eventually one of the countries gets lucky and wins the battle. But the furball remains or just moves by one field.

Some of you will say I am whining and some of you will say I'm a dweeb. I know some of you think the same as I do. Too bad we are the minority.

You see my point?

Add to the poll question... If there were personal tangiable rewards for mission participation (such as addiditonal perk points) would this influence your decision to join or not?


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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"

Midnight
13th TAS

"I see you have made your decision. Now let's see you enforce it." -Brandon Lee (The Crow)

[Midnight]

 

Originally posted by Kieren:
I've said it before, and say it again:

• Sometimes I see an immediate need that must be covered before another (yes, if in my ignorance I think keeping a particular base alive is necessary, I will try)

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I know your thoughts here Kieren. When your on defensive, that's what you need to do. However, If the attacking country was coming in as a planned mission... you would be outnumbered and outgunned. The base would fall and would be captured. When they come in alone and scattered, you can defend. All at once... good luck  

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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"

Midnight
13th TAS

"I see you have made your decision. Now let's see you enforce it." -Brandon Lee (The Crow)

[Kieren]

 

In un-coordinated efforts, we end up fighting the same field for hours while scattered bombers hit various hangers and AA. A lone goon comes in and gets shot up at the last second, or the AA or VH comes back up or whatever. Sure, eventually one of the countries gets lucky and wins the battle. But the furball remains or just moves by one field.

NOW yer talkin'! Where is this mission? I'll sign up!

I understand what you are saying, but try to understand this; I enjoy the scenario above more than any situation I can think of, regardless of the side I am on. I have been on missions enough for now, and may do so again occasionally. What I learned from all that mission-oriented-only flying was that I closed doors rather than opened them- I had squeezed all the fun out of the game in order to be "more realistic". I think I agree with Lazs, fighting over the worthless pieces of digital dirt holds no real interest to me, it is the fight that does it. To each his own.

Seriously, for this point in my life furball is much easier to deal with, and it is fun to me.

[Westy]

 Sling?  <shakes head>  Did you really think about what you wrote before putting it into text?  I'm a bit puzzled, to say the least, that you attribute that behavior, you wrote about, to "furballers."  Because you're very wrong. These folks who you call "furballers", the people who you say complain openly about lack of organisation or being down to three bases, are actually the "land grab" aka "play war"  folks. A "furballer" type could really care less if there is an organized offense or defense needed anywhere. And the same goes when there are ony three bases left. Because three bases left is a furballers delight due to the guarantee that the action will close and heavy!

 See? IT's like this in reality.  The "Land grab/War player" are the squeakiest lot of all players but there is still yet another squeaky subgroup who amazingly manage to squeak even more than those that squeak almost the most about people not playing thier way in that they aren't playing thier way good enough too!
 They extend and escalate the squeaking, that begins with there are not enough participating in missions or thier way of play is the right way and stop fuyrballing. Tthat folks are failing to defend the Mother/Father land from the infidel hordes. No, not enough. They push the ceiling on squeaking even futher. They berate their fellow squeaking brethren for not being organised enough, not dropping troops squeakingly correct or by not keeping the cap where it squeaky belongs,,,,,, you get the
picture?  

 -Dr Ruth Westyheimer

[Westy]

 "I for one announce my mission postings several times on country channel in ALL CAPS. I even explain target and objectives... I doubt anyone misses my announcements."

 Midnight, sometimes it just takes time to earn a rep for being a good mission maker. Sometimes there are too many missions ongoing. And since I don't see them or thier frequency it may be you're not plannign the mission people like to take part in. Maybe not enough variety on planes, maybe too many bombers or too many fighters, or not enough of either.  Perhaps they take too long due to the need to grab alot of alt or launch from a very rearward base.

 I'm only guessing and trying to offer positive feedback.

 -Westy

[LJK Raubvogel]

There needs to be a Free-For-All arena so all you furballing types can fly around and around in circles all night shooting each other down every 30 seconds. That would be the simple solution to the problem. I guess I just like to use my brain too much trying to combine some <G.W.Bush voice> "strategery" </Bush voice> with the flying portion of the game. Just make a simple arena with 2 invulnerable airfields and no teams, then the furballers can have their fun and not piss off the folks who want to play for a purpose.

btw, I join almost every mission posted. They are the best part of the game IMO.

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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps

 

[This message has been edited by LJK Raubvogel (edited 02-01-2001).]