POLL: Why don't YOU join missions?

[Spatula]

I dont join em, cause when im on no-one makes any. The other reason i dont 'join' em is cause i create them and are part of it from the onset.

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S p a t u l a

 

=357th Pony Express=

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[Zigrat]

I found in a way reputation of the misison poster is important.

when i first came back to acves high after hiatus, i had a different handle for 2 days. i tried posting missions but no one would join.

then i get ronni to switch me back to zigrat. viola, full missions.

thanks for your vote of confidence rooks  

[Mighty1]

I join missions if:
1)I'm going to be on long enough.(Sometimes only on for 1/2 hour or so)

2)If there is time to achieve our goal.(going after a CV but having it killed before we get there)

3)If the goal helps my side.(attacking a base deep into enemy territory just for the hell of it)

4)If the person making the mission isn't a dick.(Some guys will yell and scream at you if you don't join their missions)

[Westy]

"That would ensure that no one would spoil your "fun.""

 ??? No one is spoiling the Furballers fun. Well, except the simpelton bomber "pilot" who flattens the fh's on a base with no intent to capture nor hinder resistance to a neighboring offensive. (cough... A25 and A45 at 7pm est last night..cough). Need practice? That's what the rear bases and offline are for.
  But furballers do constantly have to hear, in the ubb and more so online,  that they are ruining others fun because they choose to furball. That furballers are not playing the "right" way and that in the end ruins the land-grab/"war" players version of "fun."

 I feel if anyone thinks they have to change the current MA game-play that they are indeed the ones who need a small gerbil whee___, er, seperate arena for the land-grab/ "war" play.
 
-Westy
 

[sling322]

Westy - You and I are a lot closer to agreeing on this issue than you think...you just misunderstood who I was directing my comments at.   I wasnt directing my comments to the "furballers"....it was more directed to the strat-minded folks that like to squeak when we are getting rolled up, but you cant get them to coordinate in a mission.  I used to be one of those "Amish" that lazs likes to refer to who was only interested in the strat war.  The addition of the F6F has changed that for me.  I love to go furballing as much as the next guy now....its just that I am not so good at it yet.  

So...this one's for you lazs:
"Hi, my name is Sling....and I am a furballer."

[LJK Raubvogel]

 

Originally posted by Westy:
Well, except the simpelton bomber "pilot" who flattens the fh's on a base with no intent to capture nor hinder resistance to a neighboring offensive. (cough... A25 and A45 at 7pm est last night..cough). Need practice? That's what the rear bases and offline are for.  

 I feel if anyone thinks they have to change the current MA game-play that they are indeed the ones who need a small gerbil whee___, er, seperate arena for the land-grab/ "war" play.
 
-Westy
 

"simpleton" bomber pilot? So, basically, you feel that bombers play no part in your concept of the game? Also, all that annoying strategy stuff must get in your way. So, why not have a separate arena with no bombers, no gv's, and absolutely no strategy targets. Then you could go around in circles all day and have fun, leaving the MA for those "strategy guys."  This will be my last post on this, because you just like to argue for the point of arguing Westy.

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LuftJägerKorps

 

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[Westy]

""simpleton" bomber pilot? So, basically, you feel that bombers play no part in your concept of the game?

 No. The "simpleton bomber" pilots are the lowest form of MA life, imo. They raid and pork bases to see things go "boOom." They're usualy at 25-30k, not a c47 or M3 in sight and no plan to do anything but hit a base. No skill, no nads players. Often seen in solo Panzers attacking a base by themselves too.


Also, all that annoying strategy stuff must get in your way.

  Actually    it doesn't. I don't mind it at all. Bombers and base attacks are the bait. They are the honey that draws the flies. They bring the enemy defense, I bring fighter, we furball, twisty turney dance in the sky,  we die. Ugh oomgowa. What irritates me, and not just a few others I've noted,  is the online whiners who clog the channel so bad at times kicking thier feat and having a tantrum that people have having fun fuyrballing, fun not thier own, elsewhere. It gets hard to compliment another friendlies kill, tell him to check six or ask him if he/she can id the dot near them.  However you'll not see furballers spam the country channel yelling out, "HEY Why are you idiots playing WAR at A19 when we need furballers at A1!!"

So, why not have a separate arena with no bombers, no gv's, and absolutely no strategy targets. Then you could go around in circles all day and have fun, leaving the MA for those "strategy guys."

  See above. Your actions are useful to a furballer. But if there were not any of that, we'd still have furballing     It's attitudes and opinions like yours that I do not  welcome in the MA and that I staunchly disagree with.

This will be my last post on this...

 No it won't.

because you just like to argue for the point of arguing Westy

 Am not.

  -Westy

[BBGunn]

Back in tours 9 and 10 I only once saw a call for a mission editor mission.  I don't think that many people have the patience to wait for a mission to develop.  There is also some learning time involved with using the mission planner/editor and although I believe it is a valid tool I never took time to study it and try it.  The closest I came to being on a mission was in the beta 'canyon lands' terrain where I would occassionally join a small raiding party in ground vehicles to capture a base.  Also, some folks who new each other would go off on a secret channel as well and do there own thing which cuts out some people who might be interested in helping etc..  I also think that perk points are probably having and influence in the MA.

[Midnight]

 

I am not saying that anyone should play "my" way. If you want to spin around and around, hour after hour, go right ahead. I am glad that you do. It helps me win.

You see, I would like to clarify some things.

• Most times I post missions that have a definite plan with all required elements, including bombers, JaBo fighters, C47s and primary escorts. I list as much detail as possible in the small description fields AH gives us. I know strat and I know my profiles work when the support is there.
• I don't know what my reputation is in AH. I try to be a team player and show respect to freind and foe alike.
• I post missions that are quick runs, usually to take less than 10 minutes travel time to target and away from the main concentration of "furballers" It makes it easier to capture/destroy a target when there is a big fight somewhere else.
• To those of you who don't like the selected planeset, just say so to the mission planner. I have no problem changing or adding a flight if someone wants to join.
• Not a Poll, It's a Survey (TECHNICALLITY)
• I don't squeak or whine about newbies in my missions. I am glad to have them onboard because they can learn from the experienced guys. Also, I add extra slots in each flight to allow for some "slop" to occur.

Anyway, don't classify everyone who likes some strategy or purpose into a "squeaking" category.

How many of you "furballer" types squeak about the planeset and the historical uses of certain planes? If your going to just furball.. hmm.. shutup about who flies what.

Lastly.. You furballers keep on going. Like I said, the more that furball is the less I have to worry about when I am en-route to target and more I have to shoot at on the way home.

<SALUTE ALL>



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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"

Midnight
13th TAS

"I see you have made your decision. Now let's see you enforce it." -Brandon Lee (The Crow)

[StSanta]

Number one reason for not joining mission is "no LW planes".

Number two: put together by some newbie.

Zigrat was/is great at putting together missions, Ripsnort as well. These guys I know create fun stuff.

Third reason: numbers. Sometimes, there's just too many to make the capture any real challenge, other than hoping some P-51 dashing for the goon won't get it.

But missions are fun.

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

"I don't necessarily agree with everything I think." - A. Eldritch

[Toad]

I don't join missions because I'm a BISHOP! We don't DO organized stuff! You want that cr*p, go be knight or something!

 

Just kidding..everybody chill!

I join IF:

1.I'm going to be on long enough.
2. The mission isn't going to take 15 minutes to launch.
3. It looks like it has a reasonable chance of accomplishing the goals.
4. If it is germane to what's happening in the arena.
5. I'll fly buffs or some fighters or C-47's.

Biggest turn-offs? Well, Hugh, nose hair, body odor...wait, wrong thread.

I won't join if the leader is a screamer. "Join my mission, join my mission" endlessly on CH2 is not a positive.

I won't join if the goal is moronic. The home island is 3/4 lost and some guy wants to go take out the attackers radar.  

lately, I've taken to squelching the repetitive types. Just gets tiresome.

Furball? Sure. Mission? Sure. Just depends on the night.

[SKurj]

I'd be willing to bet the majority of those that don't ever join missions don't read the BB  

SKurj

[Nash]

Most of the time, I find out when the mission starts and what the target is. Then I head to the field they're launching from and take off with them.

The reason I don't like to join on the planner is because of the strange loud-outs I often see.

For example Midnight (since you asked   )- two nights ago I joined one of yers and we put down the ack at an enemy field just moments before <huh??> I ran outta fuel and had to land there. The next time I upped I looked at my guage and it was set to 75%. Not enough for a sector and a half commute plus CAP. Plus the 500's I was given didnt do squat to the VH.

I'm familiar with my ride... so once I know what sort of role I'll be in, I'd rather load it out to what I'm comfortable with.


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[HARD_SCOUT]

Well I don't cause I am a newbie. When I feel comfortable in AH and the MA arena then I may start joining. I am about putting the best players up to get a goal accomplished and I will gladly aid assistance=be a target...lol If it helps the goons and buffs do their mission.

There are times though that I want a dogfight duel to the death. I need more of these at the moment cause I am learning the AH flight model and intricacies of each plane.

So I am tempted to join missions when I see them but at the moment do not feel qualified.

HARD_SCOUT

[Midnight]

   

Originally posted by Nash:
The reason I don't like to join on the planner is because of the strange loud-outs I often see.

For example Midnight (since you asked     )- two nights ago I joined one of yers and we put down the ack at an enemy field just moments before <huh??> I ran outta fuel and had to land there. The next time I upped I looked at my guage and it was set to 75%. Not enough for a sector and a half commute plus CAP. Plus the 500's I was given didnt do squat to the VH.

Nash.. I assume you are talking about your selection of F4UC? I am sorry about the fuel shortage, I don't fly that bird and don't know it's range. I figured 75% for a 45 mile flight was more than enough.

That information is posted on the flight info. If it was not good, you shold have told me. I would have changed it.

 

Originally posted by Toad:
2. The mission isn't going to take 15 minutes to launch.

I always put the mission launch time out to around 10-15 minutes in order to get recruits. If enough join up prior to advertised launch, I move up the time to get the mission off the ground ASAP.

Of course, having no breifing time is part of the problem. Once the mission starts, everyone who jumped on at the last second need to be breifed in flight.

 

Originally posted by Toad:
I won't join if the leader is a screamer. "Join my mission, join my mission" endlessly on CH2 is not a positive.

How else is someone to get recruits? There is no other way to let countrymates know there is a mission up. Maybe if the clipboard showed posted missions as one of it's main features, saying MISSION POSTED on channel 2 wouldn't be required.

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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"

Midnight
13th TAS

"I see you have made your decision. Now let's see you enforce it." -Brandon Lee (The Crow)

[This message has been edited by Midnight (edited 02-01-2001).]