POLL: Why don't YOU join missions?

[Trell]

I dont join the missions all the time because i dont like the planes that are in it. most of the time that i see the plane choices are the  51 and the hog neither one i like to fly. i would love to see some missions where there are yaks 109 or tiffys. i would even fly the zeke on a mission.  all of these have there uses and would be great for missions.


Trell

[Wardog]

I agree with trell here..

Not all missions are suited to everyones taste or amount of time online to complete a mission. Still the best tactic ive found for field capture is sneak captures. 1 Lancaster, 1 heavy fighter and 1 c47..

Dog out...........

[iculus]

I join missions whenever time allows, but being a student, time rarely does.  Sometimes it's nice when the mission simply is: "Ok guys, lets go for A6..."  Very loose, but very fun, and there's still that team effort.  

A squad is a great outlet for flying missions.  You have guys you like to fly with, and know that they'll be on, so you throw the mission on the board, if anyone else wants to join, great!  .

...by the way  ...if anyone is looking for a squad that flies buff missions, check out the 576th...  

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Iculus CO
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[This message has been edited by iculus (edited 02-01-2001).]

[eagl]

A small perk bonus would be a good incentive to flying missions.

Actually, what would be cool is if everyone in a mission got a bonus based on a percentage of the entire mission's average perk point score.

For example, let's assign a 10% bonus.

Pilot one earns 3 perk points.
Pilot two earns 5 perk points.
Pilot three earns 4 perk points
Pilot four earns 0 perk points.  

The perk point average would then be 3, so each player would get a .3 perk point bonus after the last person in the mission is killed or lands with a final perk point total.  

HTC could obviously vary the perk percentages to balance things, or even have different bonuses based on the mission size or composition.  A mission with planes AND vehicles might get a higher perk bonus, and very large missions might also rate higher bonuses.  Since the bonus would be based on the results of actual participation, teamwork and skillful execution would naturally result in a correspondingly higher bonus award.  Players could also end up receiving bonus bomber perk points after a fighter mission if a bomber was part of the mission.

I hope someone from HTC reads this far down in the thread past the flames.  I guess it would require a bunch more host code and tracking of mission data, but it sure would encourage some measure of organization.


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Oink Oink To War!!!

[Jekyll]

So lazs, I take it you would support a change to the MA to make it 10k airstart, unlimited fuel and unlimited ammo?

After all, that sounds just PERFECT for a furball arena  

[lazs]

westy has expressed my thoughts exactly and has also proven that no matter how simply you put or how obvious the facts are.... the Amish refuse or are unable to get it.

jekl.. there is nothing wrong with the arena as is.  The "furballers' are not the idiots that are going on and on about "waaaaa people aren't playing the way I like to play".   IF I were to change anything it would be to have "areas" in the arena.   An early war "area" in say, the canyon part, would make a whole lot more sense than the convoluted, anal, quake "perk" idea.

so far as 10 k starts go... try 20k, that would help the "mission oriented" more than anyone else.   You may even be able to get people to join your stupid hide and seek crap if they could escort/attack large4 formations.

Westy is of course correct about the bombers in AH.... tits on a boar for the scope of this sim and simply guarenteed to ruin the fun of the guys in the fighter war.   They have been comprimised to death for the simple reason that.... Who knows?  I suppose to be able to claim that they are available.

Giving perk points to guys that fly "missions"   Makes sense.... only cowardly anal retentive buffoons would like to have perk planes anyway so why not "reward" them with even more opportunity to be anal and organized?   Is organized a desirable trait in a game of this scope?  not in my book.

It boils down to... There are those who want more action and those who want less.   They both have their reasons.   Their reasons make no sense to each other.  
lazs  

[Wegaman]

Ummm i posted the diea of the perk bonus for mission a LONGGGG time ago.....   Everyone agreed on it.

[Midnight]

laz

why do you have to be so close-minded? What gives you the idea that people that want to fly bombers and planned missions are trying to hide from each other? The whole purpose is to fly to a target and kill it. If you furballers pulled your heads out of the guys bellybutton in front of you, there would be a chance for you to defend your target and get lots of kills.

What do you think the real war was? If they were all out there trying to "hide" from each other, there would have been a lot less destruction.

You make no sense anyway. There is no point in a fighter only war. Especially in this sim. No resources get depleted and nothing would ever change. Go play Crimson Skies or Quake.

I said before, you're a coward because if you had it your way, you would be shooting down freindly bombers that were going to actually fight a war. I'm glad there is a kill shooter. People like you is the reason we have it.

Well, that's about all I can say without getting nasty. Have fun chasing your tail all day.


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"Wing up, Get kills, Be happy"

Midnight
13th TAS

"I see you have made your decision. Now let's see you enforce it." -Brandon Lee (The Crow)

[lazs]

LOL midnight... Guess if my ride of choice was a P51 I wouldn't want anything in the arena that may result in a real fight either.

Look... get it through your head... the arena is NOT the "real war".   Real war is mostly boring, unbalanced, unfair, and not fun.  I don't believe that most are here to re-create war.  I'm very sure that you do not want to create "realistic" air combat with all it's problems... No, what you want is just the "right" amount of realism.... the amount that gives the advantage to your plane/flying style.   Try flying a plane with more vitues than speed for a tour or two.... loosen up.

As for "chasing my tail"... Why?  I'm here for the fights.   If I overwhelm a "base" so what?   they in no way resemble any "base" in WWII and their destruction is of no real purpose.   Since there is no purpose to any aspect of the game.... I will do the purposless things that are action filled and fun and I will try to beat down the Amish weenies like yourself that constantly look for a way to make things dull.

as for "quake"   what is more "powerup" than earning "perk" points so that you can get an invulnerability vest or rocket pack or weapons upgrade?   I submit that the cowardice of the Amish is the reason that they embrace the idiotic "perk" system over more fair ways to introduce new planes.

Don't get me started on bombers in a tiny little arena.
lazs

[Kieren]

Hey, hey, HEY!


Against my better judgement I chase tail in a P-51. Quite fun, too. People thinking you can't turnfight them often find out you can quite nicely.  

[lazs]

kieren... understood... When i fly one of the things I start out thinking I'll fly it smart but allways give in to my base nature.   There are no set standards... I was generalizing.  Pretty accurately tho if I do say so myself.
lazs

[Suave1]

Yep, If there is nobody online that seems interested in doing anything organized, which is most of the time, or if the arena is too crowded I just leave and go to h2h or TA . Sometimes I wonder if it's worth keeping an account .

[Westy]

 Then take the lead Suave and do it. It sounds like you're looking for it and when it's not handed to you off you go. Better yet, join a squad that does like-wise things or the best idea yet is create a squad. there seems to be enough folks who prefer the land grab/play war thing that you shoudl have no problem joining up togther.
 That could also satisfy some peoples need to constantly tell folks what to do and get the job done!

 -Westy

[Suave1]

Well first of all I'm no realestate dweeb . Anyone that knows me will tell you that. I do however like to employ unit tactics . And I do take the lead, I spend alot of time sitting in the tower waiting for people to join my missions, trouble is nobody does . But I don't rant about it, I just usually say "well guys this sucks, I'm off to h2h or TA" on squad or country channel .